The 2016 Rotation needs more Ground ball Pitchers

[sportsfan8703]

A big problem with our staff is the amount of fly ball pitchers that we have as SP's. We're obviously not going to go out and sign a top FA SP, and we can't put our chances of winning in Bundy and Harvey. With our defense we can manufacture a better rotation, even if it just appears to be making lateral moves. The focus needs to be placed on GB%. Here's how our SP stack up this year with GB%

Tillman 43.4%

Chen 40.8%

Ubaldo 48.8

Gausman 41.8%

Gonzo 40 %

Wright 43%

Wilson 52.4%

Ubaldo is really our only GB pitcher. He ranks 40th in all of MLB for SP. So we're losing Chen. The obvious replacement is Britton. Here's some names of interest that are either FA's or reasonable trade targets.

Brett Anderson 66.4%- Would we be willing to go 4/48?

Jorge De La Rosa 52.7%- He has 1 year and 12 million left w/Colorado

Tyson Ross 62.5%- Has 3 yrs of Arb left. Would cost a lot.

Gio Gonzalez 55.2%- 1yr/12 mill gtd with 2 optiion yrs for 12 million

Mike Leake 51.7%- Same boat as Anderson.

Tillman and Gausman are obviously locks for next years rotation. Trading Gonzo would be selling really low, especially with his success in the AL East. Has Ubaldo pitched well enough to trade? He actually does have a pretty good GB%. Wilson should be starting right now if it weren't for his injury. Britton is obviously the big gamble. If we resign O'day, then O'day could close with Givens, Wright, Drake, and Roe in the 6th-8th innings. My rotation would be

Tillman

B.Anderson

Gausman

Britton

Gonzo/Wilson

I'd try and get creative with Ubaldo and do a "bad" contract for a "bad" contract deal. Or attach Gonzo and Ubaldo together and get a corner bat or a SP prospect. Thoughts?

[clapdiddy]

Great research, and I am all for getting GB pitchers. With Anderson's injury history, I'm not sure he'd be a guy I'd target. I don't think we have enough to trade for any of De La Rosa, Ross, or Gonzalez. Leake could be interesting, since he doesn't cost a pick.

[Can_of_corn]

That's why they drafted Hobgood.

He should be ready any time now.

[weams]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hunter Harvey will throw bullpen session Thursday. Will pitch in AFL <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/orioles?src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="

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[weams]

That's why they drafted Hobgood.

He should be ready any time now.

It's not always a real talent. Especially if an umpire chooses to ignore that part of the strike zone.

[Can_of_corn]

It's not always a real talent. Especially if an umpire chooses to ignore that part of the strike zone.

Ground ball pitchers have to worry about two set of splits, not only do they have more issues with R/L handiness but fly ball hitters tend to have success against them.

Me, I'll take K's.

[weams]

Ground ball pitchers have to worry about two set of splits, not only do they have more issues with R/L handiness but fly ball hitters tend to have success against them.

Me, I'll take K's.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Buck said Harvey might pitch in instructs 1st, then go to AZ Fall League. He hasn't pitched in game since extended spring training. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a></p>— Eduardo A. Encina (@EddieInTheYard) <a href="

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[Can_of_corn]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Buck said Harvey might pitch in instructs 1st, then go to AZ Fall League. He hasn't pitched in game since extended spring training. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Orioles?src=hash">#Orioles</a></p>— Eduardo A. Encina (@EddieInTheYard) <a href="

">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>

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Yes, looking forward to it.

I think a lot of folks have been grouping him with Bundy when it is a very different situation.

[Scrat1]

Yes, looking forward to it.

I think a lot of folks have been grouping him with Bundy when it is a very different situation.

I absolutely have, but that's more for my own mental health than any sort of knowledge about their respective situations. I'll continue to group him in with Bundy until I see either of them pitching again for an extended period of time and actually getting results.

[Can_of_corn]

I absolutely have, but that's more for my own mental health than any sort of knowledge about their respective situations. I'll continue to group him in with Bundy until I see either of them pitching again for an extended period of time and actually getting results.

Bundy is an issue since he is out of options. Harvey hasn't even started using options.

Also, shoulders are a lot scarier then elbows.

[Scrat1]

Bundy is an issue since he is out of options. Harvey hasn't even started using options.

Also, shoulders are a lot scarier then elbows.

Oh, I'm not denying that the two are completely different, only that I've lumped them together to keep from having an aneurysm. That way if Harvey comes back again and blows his elbow out, or blows his shoulder out, or his head falls off, I'm not as emotionally invested. It's just a defense mechanism.

[Can_of_corn]

Oh, I'm not denying that the two are completely different, only that I've lumped them together to keep from having an aneurysm. That way if Harvey comes back again and blows his elbow out, or blows his shoulder out, or his head falls off, I'm not as emotionally invested. It's just a defense mechanism.

Good luck with that mate.

[weams]

Good luck with that mate.

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Sunshine

[sportsfan8703]

Ground ball pitchers have to worry about two set of splits, not only do they have more issues with R/L handiness but fly ball hitters tend to have success against them.

Me, I'll take K's.

You have K taste and GB money. :beerchug1: http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/team-strikeouts-per-game/2015/ We rank 25th in team K's. So we have a bunch of FB pitchers that can't strike anyone out. Seeing as we have a top infield defense, it would be really smart to get some GB% guys.

[Can_of_corn]

You have K taste and GB money. :beerchug1: http://www.sportingcharts.com/mlb/stats/team-strikeouts-per-game/2015/ We rank 25th in team K's. So we have a bunch of FB pitchers that can't strike anyone out. Seeing as we have a top infield defense, it would be really smart to get some GB% guys.

GB guys ain't cheap either, unless the only thing they do well is throw ground balls. Look what Porcello got.