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I'd protect all 6. The 40 man is going to be pretty roomy with all the FA's. Triggs and Tolliver would be my first two not to protect though. But in their cases I don't see why we just don't add them to the 40 man now and call them up and take a look.

Protecting all 6 is silly. Just because you have spaces doesnt mean you use them all. The more I think about it I might not protect any of them. And there are enough players ahead of them that they wouldn't even get innings this year if they were added.

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Protecting all 6 is silly. Just because you have spaces doesnt mean you use them all. The more I think about it I might not protect any of them. And there are enough players ahead of them that they wouldn't even get innings this year if they were added.

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What is the disadvantage to protecting someone? Does it count toward MLB service time?

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It puts them on the 40 man roster.

There are only so many slots and if you want to send them down you have to burn an option.

What is the disadvantage to protecting someone? Does it count toward MLB service time?

CoC hit on some points. And if you want to remove them from the roster to create space for someone else you risk losing them on waivers.

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The Sun had an article back on July 22nd mentioning minor leaguers who the O's might trade, and they had positive things to say about Tolliver:

A fifth-round pick in 2009, Tolliver lost a year to shoulder surgery (2012) and fell off the map a bit, but still has impressive stuff. His fastball, which sat 93-95 mph in a look last month, exploded on left-handed hitters, and he mixed in a slider that flashed plus as well as a changeup. The Orioles might value him more as a future bullpen piece than anyone else might, but his name could come up in the next few weeks.
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If the Orioles were even entertaining the thought of protecting Triggs, who's had a great year, albeit in AA as a 26 yo, I'd assume they'd find a way to get him on the 40 man in September and see how he looks against ML hitters. Kline and Bridwell are huge question marks health wise. If Kline is presumed to be healthy and the reports last spring him sitting mid 90's and hitting high 90's were legit, he'll be protected as well. Rodriguez has no shot.

In the end, I'll guess Lee and and Kline get protected. They traded for Lee. Some team could draft him as a LH in the pen.

I look at there being a real possibility that Britton moves to the rotation because the O's will not pay FA prices for a Chen replacement. That makes me think that Givens, Drake and Triggs are likely candidates for closer and setup spots. The Blue Jays put a bunch of rookies and second year guys in the pen. And it worked. The O's may do the same next year.

Brach and McFarland stays but the rest of the pen may be up for grabs. Rodriguez has a 2.51 ERA this year. With an open pen he may be on the Norfolk shuttle next year.

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If the Orioles were even entertaining the thought of protecting Triggs, who's had a great year, albeit in AA as a 26 yo, I'd assume they'd find a way to get him on the 40 man in September and see how he looks against ML hitters. Kline and Bridwell are huge question marks health wise. If Kline is presumed to be healthy and the reports last spring him sitting mid 90's and hitting high 90's were legit, he'll be protected as well. Rodriguez has no shot.

In the end, I'll guess Lee and and Kline get protected. They traded for Lee. Some team could draft him as a LH in the pen.

Good points. This is why we got Lee, Rodriguez and Triggs so cheap. They were going to have to be protected on their former org's 40 man this offseason. I'd say Kline and Lee get added as well. Especially with Kline being a former reliever at UVA and him starting has been an experiment. If Kline would have remained a reliever he'd probably already been in Baltimore by now.

I don't see Bridwell sticking on a MLB roster for all of next year considering he'll probably be starting the season at Bowie getting some more AA innings. His prospect status is fading.

I'm sure we really like Tolliver, but a lot of teams have their own version of him.

Triggs is a tough one. He's a bit older and pitched at a big time college so he might not be overwhelmed the way a 20 year from A ball would be. I'd protect Triggs just in case we don't bring back O'day.

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I wouldn't bring back O'Day and I still probably wouldn't protect Triggs. Of course, it depends on what they O's think of Triggs. Why didn't they ever promote him to AAA? We have a lot of RH relievers even without O'Day or Triggs. Givens, Brach, Roe, Oliver Drake, Jason Garcia, Steve Johnson, Jorge Rondon, not to mention the RH starters who might become relievers (Wright, Wilson, Bridwell, Kline, etc.). The O's would have to be really high on Triggs to protect him. Hard to believe they are so high on him, yet never promoted him to AAA.

Triggs was not promoted for the same reasons that Mancini was not promoted. 1)The Baysox were in a pennant race. 2) There were players ahead of them at AAA. Drake at closer and Walker at 1B.

Also the O's have no problem with promoting to the majors from AA. Givens proved that.

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Brian Graham: 'Chris Lee and Ariel Miranda are two pitchers that have a chance to help the big league club next year.' (paraphrased)

Sounds like Lee will be protected.

http://www.masnsports.com/media.php?show_id=2544365&p=

Or it is just lip service. Especially considering how far down the depth chart Lee is. And if he isnt taken in the Rule 5 he can still help.

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I wouldn't bring back O'Day and I still probably wouldn't protect Triggs. Of course, it depends on what they O's think of Triggs. Why didn't they ever promote him to AAA? We have a lot of RH relievers even without O'Day or Triggs. Givens, Brach, Roe, Oliver Drake, Jason Garcia, Steve Johnson, Jorge Rondon, not to mention the RH starters who might become relievers (Wright, Wilson, Bridwell, Kline, etc.). The O's would have to be really high on Triggs to protect him. Hard to believe they are so high on him, yet never promoted him to AAA.

I doubt the O's keep Steve Johnson, Rondon or Roe on the 40 man this off season. They might offer them minor league contracts.

Kline's is probably not protected from the Rule 5 draft because of the injury.

Lee, Triggs, Bridwell, and Toliver probably are protected. Rodriguez might be.

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No chance Rodriguez is protected. No chance. I'll take the risk of looking stupid later on if he is. I believe the O's have lot's of room on the 40 man so it's possible that all four players you mentioned are protected. I don't think it's probable at all. Bridwell had an injury towards the end of the year. A lot depends on how serious the injury is. If it's not, he's probably protected. I think it's less than 50/50 that Triggs is protected. I think it's 50/50 on Lee and Toliver. I would not be surprised to see none of the four added. I would rate chances of protection at 1) Bridwell (if healthy) 2) Lee 3) Toliver 4) Triggs No chance) Rodriguez

You were right last year. I tend to think more get protected that what the O's end up protecting. Its interesting to follow.

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