Jump to content

Did the Rays really do better by trading Price with 1.5 years left on his contract?

mdbdotcom

By mdbdotcom
in MLB

Recommended Posts

mdbdotcom Hangout Grand Counsel

mdbdotcom

Posted
Posted

I don't know the answer to this and I have no agenda. I'd like to know what posters who spend time evaluating prospects on a granular level think.

At the 2014 deadline, the Rays sent David Price to the Tigers, who sent Austin Jackson to the Mariners, and the Rays ended up with Drew Smyly and Nick Franklin.

At this season's deadline, the Tigers sent Price to the Blue Jays for Daniel Norris, Jairo Labourt, and Matt Boyd.

Were the Rays right in trading Price when he was more than just a rental? Was their haul significantly better than what the Tigers received for him? Or, did they merely save themselves Price's 2015 salary while trading a key asset a year before they needed to?

For the Tigers, they effectively traded Drew Smyly and Austin Jackson for Daniel Norris, Jairo Labourt, and Matt Boyd, with a year of David Price for good measure. That seems like a good deal to me. Am I wrong?

Do these deals do anything to prove or disprove the theory that a team will get more for a player by trading him when he's not just a rental?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted
I don't know the answer to this and I have no agenda. I'd like to know what posters who spend time evaluating prospects on a granular level think.

At the 2014 deadline, the Rays sent David Price to the Tigers, who sent Austin Jackson to the Mariners, and the Rays ended up with Drew Smyly and Nick Franklin.

At this season's deadline, the Tigers sent Price to the Blue Jays for Daniel Norris, Jairo Labourt, and Matt Boyd.

Were the Rays right in trading Price when he was more than just a rental? Was their haul significantly better than what the Tigers received for him? Or, did they merely save themselves Price's 2015 salary while trading a key asset a year before they needed to?

For the Tigers, they effectively traded Drew Smyly and Austin Jackson for Daniel Norris, Jairo Labourt, and Matt Boyd, with a year of David Price for good measure. That seems like a good deal to me. Am I wrong?

Do these deals do anything to prove or disprove the theory that a team will get more for a player by trading him when he's not just a rental?

Smyly is not impressive. Franklin is not anything.

The Tigers made out like bandits. Of course this was the trade of an ACE during a playoff race. The Old David Cone tactic.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
bobmc Hangout Grand Counsel

bobmc

Posted
Posted
Smyly looked pretty impressive for the Rays last year, he has been hurt this year.

Crafty lefty and the O's scorched him the other night - oh wait...... (SSS) :slytf:

He would suck for us but I hate facing him with our aggressive approach.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
weams Hangout Grand Counsel

weams

Posted
Posted
Crafty lefty and the O's scorched him the other night - oh wait...... (SSS) :slytf:

He would suck for us but I hate facing him with our aggressive approach.

I don't think he is much at all. I would be sad if I traded Bedard and He was what I got back.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
PaulFolk Hangout Grand Counsel

PaulFolk

Posted
Posted
At the 2014 deadline, the Rays sent David Price to the Tigers, who sent Austin Jackson to the Mariners, and the Rays ended up with Drew Smyly and Nick Franklin.

You're forgetting that the Rays also got Willy Adames, who was the key prospect in the deal. He's only in High-A ball, so he's a ways away from the majors, but that changes the trade calculus a bit.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Stotle Hangout Grand Counsel

Stotle

Posted
Posted
Smyly looked pretty impressive for the Rays last year, he has been hurt this year.

Yeah, there really isn't any disputing that. 4.0 SO/BB and WHIP under 0.80 for the Rays last year and though limited to seven starts this year has a 5.25 SO/BB and WHIP around 1.15. He's a dude.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
Posted

Tampa also got Willy Adams in the trade. He was a top 100 prospect coming into 2015 and has a .762 OPS this year in A+ ball at age 19. I don't know why weams is so down on Smyly, he looks like a solid MOR starter to me. Nick Franklin hasn't popped yet but a year ago he was very comparable to Schoop.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Posts

    • Flash- bd
      Jordan Westburg 2024

      By Flash- bd · Posted

      Yeah, basically this, that Westburg's underlying numbers (EV, barrel %, xwOBA) seem to point at this being pretty real, or at least that there's nothing 'undeserved / lucky' about this hot streak, if it's just that. 
    • Billy F-Face3
      Off-season Qualifying Offer Question

      By Billy F-Face3 · Posted

      Fixed it.
    • Billy F-Face3
      Off-season Qualifying Offer Question

      By Billy F-Face3 · Posted

      The problem with a Cowser/Kjerstad/Stowers/Bradfield outfield roster is there are no right handers to handle LHP. I don't think and completely left handed outfield is the destination for an organization the values versatility.
    • baltfan
      Enrique Bradfield Jr. 2024

      By baltfan · Posted

      Looks maybe concussion related. 
    • Billy F-Face3
      I have to admit. I'm an addict.

      By Billy F-Face3 · Posted

      How can you not be romantic about baseball? This seems slightly poetic. I enjoyed reading, and correlated your experience in the stands back to what I watch in Game 1 on MASN.  It was also pretty cool to hear Jim Palmer give you a shout out in Game 2 of the series on Live TV.
    • baltfan
      Gunnar Henderson 2024

      By baltfan · Posted

      I am not worried.  It just doesn’t remotely meet the eye test.  He has been great in the field . I can think of at least 3 outstanding plays he has made and not any that I thought he should have gotten but didn’t. Meanwhile Holliday is 3 OAA and I can’t think of an outstanding play and can think of a number I thought he should have made. 
    • Ridgway22
      I have to admit. I'm an addict.

      By Ridgway22 · Posted

      Nicely stated Roy. Every since I was 9 years old and saw the O's vs. the Tokyo Giants in Tokyo in 1971, I've been infected with the Orange/Black virus. There is no cure and I don't want one. You and I sat at the lunch table with Jim Palmer at the 1970 World Series Champs reunion, and its still one of my enduring baseball memories. You said I looked like Carlton Fisk! I was at all 3 games in this Angels series, right behind the O's dugout. I got to see all our boys, and just simply love to watch this team play. And in true baseball fashion, the one game on paper we should have dominated (GRod vs. 8+ ERA Channing), we end up down 7-0 and lose. But watching Gunnar's homers, his electric triple, and he made a fantastic play today on a ball that went under Westburg's glove, Adley do Adley things, Cowser, holy crap. Kimbrel v. Trout with bases loaded, bottom of 9th, 2 outs, down by 2? That was fun. Next game Trout bats leadoff and torches a GRod fastball for a homer to the opposite field.  An observation.... If you didn't know anything about the team, and you only watched game 1 batting practice, you'd think Cowser and O'Hearn were the studs of the team. Mountcastle was taking BP with the reserves and he put on a show as well.  Home after 3 straight days watching this O's team, so jealous of the Balt fans in Balt that get to see the team with regularity. It's a special bunch.

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...