FA starting pitching next year

[clapdiddy]

Jamie Garcia would be my number one target.

Could he be offered a QO?

[bpilktree]

Jamie Garcia would be my number one target.

I would add him and Happ or Fister.

[wildcard]

Chen....

[spiritof66]

Chen....

:agree:

There doesn't seem to be much interest in bringing Chen back. I don't get it. Is that because people don't like his prospects as a pitcher, think he'll be too expensive (dollars per year or number of years), don't want to lose the pick, or all of the above?

[bpilktree]

:agree:

There doesn't seem to be much interest in bringing Chen back. I don't get it. Is that because people don't like his prospects as a pitcher, think he'll be too expensive (dollars per year or number of years), don't want to lose the pick, or all of the above?

Scott Boras. He will way overvalue you him and i like his value but i bet he wants a 5 year deal in the 80-90 million range.

[Camden_yardbird]

On what basis do you believe the Orioles wil outbid another team for Kazmir and Happ?

I'm sorry, I thought that was the idea of the thread, to talk about pitching options? If we accept your premise that the Orioles can't outbid anyone for any pitcher of value, then there is no purpose to the conversation. That makes you a functionally a nihilist, rejecting without alternatives. There is no point to to having a conversation with a nihilist.

Or we could have the conversation about whether my estimate of a combined $15 million is a suitable amount to retain those pitchers.

[weams]

Could he be offered a QO?

He wont be. He has an option they may decline. If they do, I want him here.

[weams]

:agree:

There doesn't seem to be much interest in bringing Chen back. I don't get it. Is that because people don't like his prospects as a pitcher, think he'll be too expensive (dollars per year or number of years), don't want to lose the pick, or all of the above?

Me, all of the above.

[Tryptamine]

He wont be. He has an option they may decline. If they do, I want him here.

He's never healthy. You'd be lucky if he made half his starts.

[weams]

He's never healthy. You'd be lucky if he made half his starts.

I'd take half his starts. BTW? What's up with that Coghlan slide?

[SteveA]

Jamie Garcia would be my number one target.

We don't want him. He didn't do well on Ritterpusch's test.

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[Tryptamine]

I think Kazmir on a 3/48 and Kennedy on a 3/36 deal,ignore the fluke HR/FB where he was tipping his pitches, would be nice value. That would leave you roughly 15M, where you could get Alex Gordon on a 5/95ish deal. It still leaves 1B without a solution but the pitching staff and defense pick up significant upgrades.

Kazmir,Tillman,Kennedy,Ubaldo,Gausman has the potential to be pretty filthy.

[weams]

I think Kazmir on a 3/48 and Kennedy on a 3/36 deal,ignore the fluke HR/FB where he was tipping his pitches, would be nice value. That would leave you roughly 15M, where you could get Alex Gordon on a 5/95ish deal. It still leaves 1B without a solution but the pitching staff and defense pick up significant upgrades.

Kazmir,Tillman,Kennedy,Ubaldo,Gausman has the potential to be pretty filthy.

How many picks you giving up there?

[Tryptamine]

I'd take half his starts. BTW? What's up with that Coghlan slide?

Technically nothing wrong with it according to the rules, as Coghlan was within reach of the base. Kang got caught in a bad position which made it worse. With that said, if you want to advocate a rule where players can't slide to the side or through a bag to try and break up a double play then I'll support it. Injuries would go down and you'd be able to get rid of the neighborhood play as well.

[Tryptamine]

How many picks you giving up there?

You give up 2, become immediately competitive in the East, but get picks from Chen,Wieters and Davis.