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I had many discussions with Dan this year and he is no Johnny-Come-Lately to this posture. In fact, he had Toronto winning the East and predicted a World Series win for them as well.

Am I misunderstanding this? The Orioles won 96 games last year. He failed to sign our main free agents, then said he signed platoon guys that would put up similar numbers, then picked the BJ's to win the division. That doesnt sit well with me at all

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Am I misunderstanding this? The Orioles won 96 games last year. He failed to sign our main free agents, then said he signed platoon guys that would put up similar numbers, then picked the BJ's to win the division. That doesnt sit well with me at all

I think the Dan he is referring to here is Dan Connolly.

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Maybe we're saying the same thing, but I look at this aspect of the piece as, "It would be too complicated for me to analyze the future impact of these signings, so let's look at it in a simplistic way that no responsible GM (or manager of any business business) would use.

Yea, that's pretty much what I'm saying. The piece was a one-year look at the wisdom of long-term deals. When everyone expected year one to be the most productive for each of those players. The piece should have come with a disclaimer that this is cherry picking the year that makes the Orioles' decisions look the worst.

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Maybe we're saying the same thing, but I look at this aspect of the piece as, "It would be too complicated for me to analyze the future impact of these signings, so let's look at it in a simplistic way that no responsible GM (or manager of any business business) would use.

The other problem with hindsight looks at these decisions is that they tend to assume that the Orioles could have signed any (or all) of three by meeting the offers they took. We really don't know whether the Mariners, Braves or (especially) the Yankees would have offered more if the Orioles had pushed the bidding upward. So signing them have required more dollars (or years) than everyone assumes.

I agree. Calling these decisions "foolhardy"is just journalistic hype. While many could and did disagree with some or all of them, they all were reasonable, and defensible. That most did not work out is unfortunate, but none of them were foolish choices.
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I agree. Calling these decisions "foolhardy"is just journalistic hype. While many could and did disagree with some or all of them, the all are reasonable, and defensible. That most did not work out is unfortunate, but none of them were foolish choices.

The only decision I had a real problem with was selling the comp pick to the Dodgers.

And that didn't impact the season.

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I agree. Calling these decisions "foolhardy"is just journalistic hype. While many could and did disagree with some or all of them, the all are reasonable, and defensible. That most did not work out is unfortunate, but none of them were foolish choices.

It's easy to forget that we acquired Nate McClouth, Chris Davis, Steve Pearce, Miguel Gonzalez, and even Nelson Cruz via the same kind of "dumpster diving" process that simply didn't work out this season.

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It's easy to forget that we acquired Nate McClouth, Chris Davis, Steve Pearce, Miguel Gonzalez, and even Nelson Cruz via the same kind of "dumpster diving" process that simply didn't work out this season.

The people who use dumpster diving as a pejorative term are also the ones who think it was dumb luck that McLouth, Pearce, Davis, Gonzalez, et al played well instead of hitting .180 and being released.

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