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The Return of the Crow?


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Wasn't meant to be a fair knock.

Was meant to be a quick joke.

Well' date=' it works on that level. I'm glad Crow is so high on Mancini. Seems like there isn't a consensus on him among scouts (hence no. 18 in the EL per BA), but those who are high on him are [u']really high on him[/u]. Hope they're right; we could use a break like that.

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Well, it works on that level. I'm glad Crow is so high on Mancini. Seems like there isn't a consensus on him among scouts (hence no. 18 in the EL per BA), but those who are high on him are really high on him. Hope they're right; we could use a break like that.

I don't know, if I had to explain it to a smart guy like you I'm not sure it did.

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Doing a quick scan of Terry Crowley. The obp of his teams usually hovered around .333 or so. Since he left the mlb team it's been around .312. Also it was a rarity for a guy to strike out 120 times under Crowley. Since then the O's usually have three guys each season strike out 120+ times.

I only used post 2005 PED testing numbers to be fair to the hitting coaches that came after Crowley.

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Doing a quick scan of Terry Crowley. The obp of his teams usually hovered around .333 or so. Since he left the mlb team it's been around .312. Also it was a rarity for a guy to strike out 120 times under Crowley. Since then the O's usually have three guys each season strike out 120+ times.

I only used post 2005 PAD testing numbers to be fair to the hitting coaches that came after Crowley.

Crowley's teams got to use PEDs with more ease.

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Not trying to be a smart alec. But did you read my whole post?

I only used stats after MLB started testing for steroids.

I must have been multi tasking. It is still cleaner now than it had been though ;) Remember, even ALex only tested positive before 2004.

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I must have been multi tasking. It is still cleaner now than it had been though ;) Remember, even ALex only tested positive before 2004.

Haha! Yeah I do that a lot too. I do think Crowley helps his players get better hand eye coordination with the drills he does with players.

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I never like AARoid, and now that he won't be in the HOF makes me a little happier.

I wouldn't bet on that.

They are culling the older voters and I think the ones left won't be as adverse.

Then again once folks start voting for Pettitte they won't be able to use the PED excuse for the rest of them.

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I wouldn't bet on that.

They are culling the older voters and I think the ones left won't be as adverse.

Then again once folks start voting for Pettitte they won't be able to use the PED excuse for the rest of them.

Alex will never get in because of the year long ban.

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