Connolly rates Chen returning to the Orioles at 1 out of 10

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Does that ERA+ include his stint in Indy league ball?

Indy ball doesn't count in MLB stats from what I know.

[Can_of_corn]

Indy ball doesn't count in MLB stats from what I know.

It was a rhetorical question. I figured Frobby would choose to ignore Kazmir's embarrassing stint in Indy ball when touting him as a potential signing.

I was just making sure folks remembered.

[weams]

It was a rhetorical question. I figured Frobby would choose to ignore Kazmir's embarrassing stint in Indy ball when touting him as a potential signing.

I was just making sure folks remembered.

Was he rehabbing himself there?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11123695/how-scott-kazmir-came-back-help-unconventional-training-espn-magazine

[Can_of_corn]

Was he rehabbing himself there?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11123695/how-scott-kazmir-came-back-help-unconventional-training-espn-magazine

He certainly wasn't getting hitters out.

What's the testing like in the Atlantic league?

[byrdz]

I categorize Chen like Wieters and this is more gut feeling than anything. These guys always seemed to be looking beyond the Orioles as their end goal. Treating the O's more like a stepping stone to what they really are after. Free Agency I guess. Maybe it's their agent but I don't get the same vibe from Davis. Sure he wants the big payday but I feel like he wants to be an Oriole. Time will tell.

[weams]

He certainly wasn't getting hitters out.

What's the testing like in the Atlantic league?

The players make 700 a month. I would not test for 700 a month.

[Can_of_corn]

The players make 700 a month. I would not test for 700 a month.

Just saying it is a heck of a story, from MLB star, to not being able to get Indy League guys out, back to solid MLB Contributor.

Sounds more like a movie then real life.

There is even that one out performance in the Winter League.

Don't tell me that wouldn't make a good scene in a movie.

[weams]

Just saying it is a heck of a story, from MLB star, to not being able to get Indy League guys out, back to solid MLB Contributor.

Sounds more like a movie then real life.

There is even that one out performance in the Winter League.

Don't tell me that wouldn't make a good scene in a movie.

His fastball velocity dropped until topping out in the mid-80s in 2011.

[Can_of_corn]

His fastball velocity dropped until topping out in the mid-80s in 2011.

But now that he is older he is throwing harder again right?

[weams]

But now that he is older he is throwing harder again right?

Much! Mid-Nineties!

[Can_of_corn]

Much! Mid-Nineties!

I wouldn't go to the theaters to see it, but when MLB channel aired it in the offseason I'd watch it.

[weams]

San Diego Padres News

There's skepticism as to whether the Padres will really give Ian Kennedy a qualifying offer. Rivals see that as a $15.8-million gamble that's too big for a small-revenue team.

CBS Sports

[JLee2027]

The more I think about it, the more I think the smart move is to QO Chen and go sign Kazmir.

Yes.

At the risk of upsetting a few more posters, old fashioned loyalty is no longer seen as an obligation. My how times have changed.

I was also of the opinion that Showalter lost confidence in Chen sometime this year. He seems to have gotten more than his share of early hooks with an low pitch count. In any event, I do agree Chen is gone and I won't miss him.

[Can_of_corn]

Yes.

At the risk of upsetting a few more posters, old fashioned loyalty is no longer seen as an obligation. My how times have changed.

I was also of the opinion that Showalter lost confidence in Chen sometime this year. He seems to have gotten more than his share of early hooks with an low pitch count. In any event, I do agree Chen is gone and I won't miss him.

I'll miss him.

He gave good service.

I appreciated that when he had a bad game he would own it.

I also liked how his use of a translator annoyed a certain section of the fanbase.

A little bit better then average is pretty darn good and not easy to replace.

[weams]

I'll miss him.

He gave good service.

I appreciated that when he had a bad game he would own it.

I also liked how his use of a translator annoyed a certain section of the fanbase.

A little bit better then average is pretty darn good and not easy to replace.

He was excellent as an inexpensive surplus value.