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I believe Sam can make this team once they are healthy. Since the begining of the year he has solved how to use his bullpen-the rest will come in a week or 2. chill the o's are 7-7, .500 there is still a lot of baseball to be played.

PS:This post is in refrenece to the many people who believe Perlozzo is a bad manager. Remember Perlozzo still doesn't have a complete season as a Orioles manager yet.

I think the folks that believe things will all fall into place for the O's just as soon as Ramon Hernandez and Jay Payton return are in for an unpleasant surprise.

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I think the folks that believe things will all fall into place for the O's just as soon as Ramon Hernandez and Jay Payton return are in for an unpleasant surprise.

I agree Dave. I still think this team is a .500 club with Perlozzo as manager and a 85-88 win club with a manager willing to use his bench and relievers properly.

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Who thinks that?!?!?

I see lots of posts here that use the O's health as an excuse/explanation for the lackluster start (especially offensively). "Well wait until Hernandez and Payton are back" type of comments are pretty common around here.

In fact the original poster just did it.

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I see lots of posts here that use the O's health as an excuse/explanation for the lackluster start (especially offensively). "Well wait until Hernandez and Payton are back" type of comments are pretty common around here.

In fact the original poster just did it.

I think most people just mean that things will work out a bit better overall. Perlozzo will still mismanage the team in to the ground, though.

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I see lots of posts here that use the O's health as an excuse/explanation for the lackluster start (especially offensively). "Well wait until Hernandez and Payton are back" type of comments are pretty common around here.

In fact the original poster just did it.

I've seen a couple posts that express that belief, but if you read through the thread I think you'll see that the majority believe that Hernandez and Payton's returns are far from a cure-all and that it probably won't change the highly questionable decisions Perlozzo makes.

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I see lots of posts here that use the O's health as an excuse/explanation for the lackluster start (especially offensively). "Well wait until Hernandez and Payton are back" type of comments are pretty common around here.

In fact the original poster just did it.

Hernandez will be a huge upgrade over Bako and Castillo. By Hernandez joining the team Castillo gets dropped and Bako will only start maybe once a week. So 90% of the time our lineup is going to look like:

Roberts 2b

Mora 3b

Markakis RF

Tejada SS

Huff 1st

Hernandez C

Gibbons LF

Millar DH

Patterson CF

bench(Knott(PH/Start DH), Gomez(Defensive replacement for 1st and infield dayoff), Payton(Start in CF vs LHP or LF vs LHP, Defensive replacement for Gibby late in the day), Bako(backup Catcher)).

I think that is one complete offensive and defensive team.

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Hernandez will be a huge upgrade over Bako and Castillo. By Hernandez joining the team Castillo gets dropped and Bako will only start maybe once a week. So 90% of the time our lineup is going to look like:

Roberts 2b

Mora 3b

Markakis RF

Tejada SS

Huff 1st

Hernandez C

Gibbons LF

Millar DH

Patterson CF

I think that is one complete offensive and defensive team.

Not against a good left-handed starter. Of course, it COULD be better altogether with wiser use of players already in the organization.

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Not against a good left-handed starter. Of course' date=' it COULD be better altogether with wiser use of players already in the organization.[/quote']

All you need to do to improve agaist LHP is play Payton in LF Millar at 1B and Knott at DH. Occasionally, Gomez for Roberts. If you decide to platoon CPat, then Knott plays LF and Huff DH's. What other players do you need?

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I think the folks that believe things will all fall into place for the O's just as soon as Ramon Hernandez and Jay Payton return are in for an unpleasant surprise.

Nobody should go so far as to say that. But let's just say this: the absence of Hernandez and Payton places far greater stress on areas where everyone already know we had some weaknesses. We knew we had a weak-hitting back-up catcher, but we didn't expect him to get more than maybe 10-12 AB at this stage of the season. We knew we still had some vulnerability to LHP, but we didn't knwo that tow players who had .800+ OPS vs.LHP last year would be out of the lineup forcing our lefties to play. We knew Gibbons and/or Millar would be something of an adventure in LF, but we didn't know they'd be out there every single game. All three of those weaknesses will still exist once Payton and Hernandez are back, but they will be less pronounced.

The flip side will be that Perlozzo will probably play Payton too much against RHP.

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I see lots of posts here that use the O's health as an excuse/explanation for the lackluster start (especially offensively). "Well wait until Hernandez and Payton are back" type of comments are pretty common around here.

In fact the original poster just did it.

Wonder how long these folks think the planned starting lineup will be the actual starting lineup? Most teams have a player or two (or five) banged up most of the time. When your backup option at six poisitions is Freddy Bynum, that's going to hurt.

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