Give Sam P. a chance

[TyCobb]

All you need to do to improve agaist LHP is play Payton in LF Millar at 1B and Knott at DH. Occasionally, Gomez for Roberts. If you decide to platoon CPat, then Knott plays LF and Huff DH's. What other players do you need?

I agree. Once we have a lefty out there, Knott gets plugged into DH or LF, Payton gets plugged into LF or CF, Millar gets plugged into 1st, and once in a while Huff or Gibbons will be in at LF or DH.

[Birds of B'more]

All you need to do to improve agaist LHP is play Payton in LF Millar at 1B and Knott at DH. Occasionally, Gomez for Roberts. If you decide to platoon CPat, then Knott plays LF and Huff DH's. What other players do you need?

No problem with Payton in CF and Knott in LF at all. In fact, I like it. The problem is if that quote in The Post is to be believed, Knott won't be here once Payton comes back. Then we're left with either Gibbons or Millar in LF (or Patterson in CF) and Bynum on the bench if we need a PH.

[Sports Guy]

With the losses of Payton and Ramon, what would the logical thing to do be?

I would think to have bats up here that can hit, respecially bats that can hit left handed pitching.

What does Sammy want to do? Carry 13 pitchers and the worse bench in baseball and maybe ever.

So, we lose a very key offensive player in Ramon, a decent hitter in Payton and we replace them with Bynum, Castillo and Birkins.

Now, someone show me where there is one ounce of logic in that???

Every year people have an excuse for the Orioles management team...Last year, people said Sammy doesn't have the players to work with up here. Well, he has them but he doesn't want them and if he has them, he doesn;t want to use them.

So what is your excuse now?

[TyCobb]

With the losses of Payton and Ramon, what would the logical thing to do be?

I would think to have bats up here that can hit, respecially bats that can hit left handed pitching.

What does Sammy want to do? Carry 13 pitchers and the worse bench in baseball and maybe ever.

So, we lose a very key offensive player in Ramon, a decent hitter in Payton and we replace them with Bynum, Castillo and Birkins.

Now, someone show me where there is one ounce of logic in that???

Every year people have an excuse for the Orioles management team...Last year, people said Sammy doesn't have the players to work with up here. Well, he has them but he doesn't want them and if he has them, he doesn;t want to use them.

So what is your excuse now?

No one is giving Sammy an excuse. We lost 2 key parts to our team. Sammy wants to make sure his YOUNG pitching staff is protected because he knows they are the key to our season. Once Cabrera, Loewen, Wright, and Trashel start showing they can handle their job, Sammy would drop a RP for a hitter.

The only reason Bynum is up is because Sammy wants to see how Gibbons performs in LF. Gibbons to me has shown that he is adequate and once Sammy feels that way Bynum will get sent down for a PH or 3rd catcher, who I hope is House.

[Sports Guy]

No one is giving Sammy an excuse. We lost 2 key parts to our team. Sammy wants to make sure his YOUNG pitching staff is protected because he knows they are the key to our season. Once Cabrera, Loewen, Wright, and Trashel start showing they can handle their job, Sammy would drop a RP for a hitter.

The only reason Bynum is up is because Sammy wants to see how Gibbons performs in LF. Gibbons to me has shown that he is adequate and once Sammy feels that way Bynum will get sent down for a PH or 3rd catcher, who I hope is House.

No offense but you didn't say one thing here that exuses anything.

We lost 2 key offensive players and instead of replacing them and not missing a beat, he replaced them with garbage.

[TyCobb]

No offense but you didn't say one thing here that exuses anything.

We lost 2 key offensive players and instead of replacing them and not missing a beat, he replaced them with garbage.

I actually think our SP will be fine. Sammy obivously doesn't and that is the reason why we have extra arms in the pen. Bynum is up here because Payton got hurt. Once Hernandez and Payton come up, and our SP start getting into the 7th on a regular basis, Sammy will bring his pitching staff to 12 and bring up House and Knott. Got to run to class.

[Frobby]

No offense but you didn't say one thing here that exuses anything.

We lost 2 key offensive players and instead of replacing them and not missing a beat, he replaced them with garbage.

I actually feel it would be more inexcusable to leave Bynum on the team once these guys return than it was to have him on the team while they were gone. As to Castillo vs. House, it depends just how abysmal a defensive catcher House is, and I can't make a judgment because I've never seen him play.

[tvz1997]

My hope is that Perlozzo believes that a team should have three solid defensive OFers on the team at all times, be they starters or reserves. At the outset of the season, we were supposed to have Cpat, Payton, and Markakis. So long as all three were healthy and not DHing (fat chance), we would be okay. Payton going down necessitated Bynum and losing Cpat for a few days left him in a now-pinch-hitting-Paul-Bako sort of stupor.

I may be dreaming, but if House keeps hitting in the minors, Payton and Ramon come back, and Bynum is again best known for his baseball bat on speedy legs impression, I could see House being brought up as a 3rd string catcher/backup 1B/PH. I think this is even likely if either Gibbons or Millar go down at some point (almost a certainty). With the team short of 3 defensive OFers, you turn to Bynum. With the team short of 3 offensive OFers, you turn to Knott. With the outfield intact and especially with an injury to Gibbons/Millar/Huff, you turn to House.

Just a thought.

[Sports Guy]

I actually feel it would be more inexcusable to leave Bynum on the team once these guys return than it was to have him on the team while they were gone. As to Castillo vs. House, it depends just how abysmal a defensive catcher House is, and I can't make a judgment because I've never seen him play.

But none of this matters.

You guys keep making the excuse that Sammy doesn't have his full compliment of players....And while that is true, he is even further hurting himself because of who has up here to replace them.

What i am saying is these excuses don't make up for how bad he is and that his decisions with the roster are hurting us, with or without Ramon and Payton.

[Frobby]

But none of this matters.

You guys keep making the excuse that Sammy doesn't have his full compliment of players....And while that is true, he is even further hurting himself because of who has up here to replace them.

What i am saying is these excuses don't make up for how bad he is and that his decisions with the roster are hurting us, with or without Ramon and Payton.

First of all, I am not making any excuses for Perlozzo. Isn't that the team motto, "no excuses?"

What I am saying is that I don't find these particular roster decisions indefensible. You can question them, but I think the rationale is reasonable. Whereas, in my opinion, there is no logic whatsoever in keeping Bynum over Knott once Payton is back here.

[Woody Held]

It is apparent that Sam’s bench choices leave us in bad match ups late in games. Sometime we overcoming it, sometimes we don’t. However what scares me the most about Sam’s managerial style is how he is using this bullpen. The results so far has been stellar, no question, two bad pitches away from being incredible. However look at the number of appearances these guys are making

Walker 9 64% of games

Baez 7 50% of games

Parrish 8 57% of games

Bradford 8 57% of games

Ray 8 57% of games only 5 of 8 save opportunities

How does this play out for a full year,

Walker 103 64% of games

Baez 81 50% of games

Parrish 92 57% of games

Bradford 92 57% of games

Ray 92 57% of games only 5 of 8 save opportunities

It looks like they’ll be some tired arms in September. Maybe even August.

[byrdz]

It is apparent that Sam’s bench choices leave us in bad match ups late in games. Sometime we overcoming it, sometimes we don’t. However what scares me the most about Sam’s managerial style is how he is using this bullpen. The results so far has been stellar, no question, two bad pitches away from being incredible. However look at the number of appearances these guys are making

Walker 9 64% of games

Baez 7 50% of games

Parrish 8 57% of games

Bradford 8 57% of games

Ray 8 57% of games only 5 of 8 save opportunities

How does this play out for a full year,

Walker 103 64% of games

Baez 81 50% of games

Parrish 92 57% of games

Bradford 92 57% of games

Ray 92 57% of games only 5 of 8 save opportunities

It looks like they’ll be some tired arms in September. Maybe even August.

Everyones usage is relatively high, I don't think this is much of his managerial style as it is the starters aren't carrying their weight.

[Sports Guy]

It is apparent that Sam’s bench choices leave us in bad match ups late in games. Sometime we overcoming it, sometimes we don’t. However what scares me the most about Sam’s managerial style is how he is using this bullpen. The results so far has been stellar, no question, two bad pitches away from being incredible. However look at the number of appearances these guys are making

Walker 9 64% of games

Baez 7 50% of games

Parrish 8 57% of games

Bradford 8 57% of games

Ray 8 57% of games only 5 of 8 save opportunities

How does this play out for a full year,

Walker 103 64% of games

Baez 81 50% of games

Parrish 92 57% of games

Bradford 92 57% of games

Ray 92 57% of games only 5 of 8 save opportunities

It looks like they’ll be some tired arms in September. Maybe even August.

Sammy needs to let the relievers go longer in games however, this shows more about the rotation not going deep into games than anything IMO.

[byrdz]

Sorry, a little Side note: Everytime I look at the title of this thread I start singing Lennon's, "Give Peace a Chance".

[Tony-OH]

It is apparent that Sam’s bench choices leave us in bad match ups late in games. Sometime we overcoming it, sometimes we don’t. However what scares me the most about Sam’s managerial style is how he is using this bullpen. The results so far has been stellar, no question, two bad pitches away from being incredible. However look at the number of appearances these guys are making

Walker 9 64% of games

Baez 7 50% of games

Parrish 8 57% of games

Bradford 8 57% of games

Ray 8 57% of games only 5 of 8 save opportunities

How does this play out for a full year,

Walker 103 64% of games

Baez 81 50% of games

Parrish 92 57% of games

Bradford 92 57% of games

Ray 92 57% of games only 5 of 8 save opportunities

It looks like they’ll be some tired arms in September. Maybe even August.

Great post.... If he would let his relievers go more then an inning after they only throw a handful of pitches, he wouldn't have those numbers. Maybe Perlozzo is trying to change the way bullpens are used. Five one inning relievers and two long guys... Who knew Sammy was such a visionary.