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At a certain point in time the guys from the can are worth more on the field then the guys you kept long term.

With any big free agent signing you know you are buying some years of decline.

I think that Vance Worley has potentially more excess value than J.J. Hardy. And certainly more than Chris Davis after his new contract.

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Who was the last gem we dug out of the can though?

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Cruz. Though there was one other team digging through the can with us. And he picked us.

He was a disgraced PED abuser from the Biogenesis scandal that had single handedly lost a World Series for the team he played for.

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He cost practically nothing and was a key cog on a playoff team.

I don't argue your point Can of Corn, ..but you have to count all the money and roster spots wasted on the failed dumpster diving.

Parmalee comes to mind ...and the player they got rid of when they were forced to promote or lose him.

The wasted money on the expectation of the expanded role for Delmon etc etc.

My point is that it's okay to attempt to hit the proverbial lottery. But you actually have to add some talent that you can actually count on. The replacements for Markakis and Cruz were abysmal failures and a contributing factor to the down turn this season.

I'll mention that I'm aware of the bad year by the SP so some poster doesn't try to remind me. I'll argue that they had an extra starter they could've moved before this past season. They probably could've gotten good value out of trading Norris or Gonzalez (selling high ) and had the added benefit of not messing around with Gausman for 1/2 season.

Additionally had they moved some of O'Day,, Davis, Wieters, and or Chen we would not be talking about needing to find 6-7 quality guys to fill out starting positions on our roster....just saying

Again I get we were still hanging around for the last wild card. But DD did not have the chips to buy at the deadline to help a team with flawed starting pitching. So again in my opinion selling was the common sense thing to do.

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I don't argue your point Can of Corn, ..but you have to count all the money and roster spots wasted on the failed dumpster diving.

Parmalee comes to mind ...and the player they got rid of when they were forced to promote or lose him.

The wasted money on the expectation of the expanded role for Delmon etc etc.

My point is that it's okay to attempt to hit the proverbial lottery. But you actually have to add some talent that you can actually count on. The replacements for Markakis and Cruz were abysmal failures and a contributing factor to the down turn this season.

I'll mention that I'm aware of the bad year by the SP so some poster doesn't try to remind me. I'll argue that they had an extra starter they could've moved before this past season. They probably could've gotten good value out of trading Norris or Gonzalez (selling high ) and had the added benefit of not messing around with Gausman for 1/2 season.

Additionally had they moved some of O'Day,, Davis, Wieters, and or Chen we would not be talking about needing to find 6-7 quality guys to fill out starting positions on our roster....just saying

Again I get we were still hanging around for the last wild card. But DD did not have the chips to buy at the deadline to help a team with flawed starting pitching. So again in my opinion selling was the common sense thing to do.

I think the Orioles absolutely wasted 15 million last season.

Easily.

They could have kept Nick on his option for all the money he wasted. Unfortunately, the team would then not be able to make any mistakes with money and all teams do make those mistakes. Many times for three of four times as much money and for six to eight years.

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Cruz. Though there was one other team digging through the can with us. And he picked us.

He was a disgraced PED abuser from the Biogenesis scandal that had single handedly lost a World Series for the team he played for.

If it's another off season of dumpster diving then we are in for a long, long season.

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Swept by KC but the .198 hitting Davis with the whopping .700 OPS in September was the difference. Give me a break!

Just an FYI each team also has to play defense every inning. KCs defense and speed really showed up in that series. I think it's a mistake to discount CDs defensive ability.

I didn't say cd would've won that series single handedly.....but IMO he most certainly would have made the play that was blown and was key in that game.

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I think the Orioles absolutely wasted 15 million last season.

Easily.

They could have kept Nick on his option for all the money he wasted. Unfortunately, the team would then not be able to make any mistakes with money and all teams do make those mistakes. Many times for three of four times as much money and for six to eight years.

3 yr/ $30 mil for Billy Butler

3 yr/ $40 mil for JJ Hardy (gotta include him)

3 yr/ $42 mil for Melky Cabrera

4 yr/ $48 mil for Brandon McCarthy

4 yr/ $68 mil for Victor Martinez

6 yr/ $69 mil for Yasmany Tomas

4 yr/ $83 mil for Rick Porcello

4 yr/ $88 mil for Hanley Ramirez

5 yr/ $95 mil for Pablo Sandoval

James Shields and Chase Headley deals had so-so returns. You could add David Robertson too.

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