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Don't know about you...but I want Cespedes

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A lot of red flags with Cespedes... he's been on 4 teams in 4 years. Obviously there is a reason why he is wearing out his welcome.

He had a bad shoulder towards the end of the regular season and into the playoffs, yet continued playing golf the day of games, including Game 4 of the World Series.

No thanks.

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Ding....ding...ding... This may be why Cespedes is not getting much attention in the market. Prior to the last 60 games with the Mets he was a 2-3 win player. Not a game changer not worth $20MM a year

I suspect he's getting plenty of attention. I also suspect he'll get some silly nine-figure contract. And... I don't think he's on the Orioles' radar. In fact, I don't think we'll sign Upton, Gordon or anyone else of that ilk.

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Ding....ding...ding... This may be why Cespedes is not getting much attention in the market. Prior to the last 60 games with the Mets he was a 2-3 win player. Not a game changer not worth $20MM a year

Most all would agree he was THE game-changer for the Mets upon acquisition. May have missed the playoffs entirely without him.

Plus, I would bet he is getting a lot of attention from numerous teams, regardless of whether we are reading about it.

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A lot of red flags with Cespedes... he's been on 4 teams in 4 years. Obviously there is a reason why he is wearing out his welcome.

He had a bad shoulder towards the end of the regular season and into the playoffs, yet continued playing golf the day of games, including Game 4 of the World Series.

No thanks.

I would focus more at how the teams did after they acquired him vs how they were doing before they acquired him. That matters more than if he was a good clubhouse guy.

And the fact that he was willing to play hurt should be considered a plus - though any team considering him obviously should check on his health.

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30-year-old with a career .805 OPS coming off the best 60-game streak of his career in the middle of a NYC pennant race. Sounds like a great way to pay 6- or 7-win prices for a 3-win player's decline phase.

So you don't want him in part because he helped the Mets win their division....

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A GM of a mid-market team, like the Orioles, must consider the value of a first-round draft pick. That's a critical part of the equation.

Exactly. If you want to add enough talent for the O's to be a contender next season, consider the options and how they effect the future. If you don't want the O's to contend next year, be up front about it.

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If you sign him to a 6/$120MM deal you should still come out ok on it...

2016 4.0

2017 3.6

2018 3.2

2019 2.5

2020 2.0

2021 1.6

TOTAL WAR = 16.90 @ 2016 rate ($8MM/WAR) = $135,200,000.00*

*does not count for yearly inflation

There you're only paying for three seasons better than his 2nd-best year in his 20s. In his 30s.

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There you're only paying for three seasons better than his 2nd-best year in his 20s. In his 30s.

I don't want to sign the guy cause I don't think he fits in w the culture here.

That said, it's not exactly his fault he didn't debut till he was 26 years old.

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I'm not sure you can point to 4 teams and say the guy is a hot-mess socially.

Look at the teams/situations:

A's...they'll trade anyone, including future league MVPs

Boston...they ARE a hot mess and not all players like playing in that city

Detroit...they blew up their team (see: David Price)

Mets...contract is up.

Unless you guys have been hiding out in clubhouse laundry baskets, listening-in on dynamics, the four team argument doesn't hold much water. In fact, I've read that he was liked - a lot - in Oakland.

I'd love to see him in Black and Orange.

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I'm not sure you can point to 4 teams and say the guy is a hot-mess socially.

Look at the teams/situations:

A's...they'll trade anyone, including future league MVPs

Boston...they ARE a hot mess and not all players like playing in that city

Detroit...they blew up their team (see: David Price)

Mets...contract is up.

Unless you guys have been hiding out in clubhouse laundry baskets, listening-in on dynamics, the four team argument doesn't hold much water. In fact, I've read that he was liked - a lot - in Oakland.

I'd love to see him in Black and Orange.

I've read he was chain smoking in the tunnel during BP w the Mets.

He was playing golf on the WS game day.

He was dislike immensely in Boston.

There might not be any fire to that smoke, but I suspect our FO has better insight into than we do.

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30-year-old with a career .805 OPS coming off the best 60-game streak of his career in the middle of a NYC pennant race. Sounds like a great way to pay 6- or 7-win prices for a 3-win player's decline phase.

Not to mention he has two seasons with OBPs at or below .300, which is a constant source of frustration around these parts. Actually, he and the much-maligned Adam Jones have the same career OBP (.319).

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I've read he was chain smoking in the tunnel during BP w the Mets.

He was playing golf on the WS game day.

He was dislike immensely in Boston.

There might not be any fire to that smoke, but I suspect our FO has better insight into than we do.

Chain smoking as opposed to chain dipping?

Golf on WS day... apparently he plays a lot of golf prior to night games and talks openly about it.

The list of people disliked in Boston is long.

There's smoke everywhere...

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