Can the O's sign Manny and Chris Davis long term?

[tntoriole]

What you say makes some sense but the fans would be pissed off. I would be

disgusted with PA and DD.

Hard to see Potter handing out a 300 million contract in the next year or two. I hope I am wrong, but if not, then you gotta trade.

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[TradeAngelos]

That choice would be very obvious. Manny is far more likely to provide excess value compared to Davis. But we don't have the luxury of waiting to see if we can lock up Manny before making a decision on Davis.

I personally feel we can afford both. It's really more a question of whether the Davis contract is worthwhile on a standalone basis.

We can afford lots of players that never end up signing, I wouldn't put much weight in what we "can afford" but more what Pete is willing to spend.

I think there is a good possibility neither will be here long term much less both.

I mean this is a team that has a previous max contract(singular) of 85 milliion. And you think Pete is going to kick out 300m plus in a year(ish) time frame?

Right after Roberts deal until now is when they have spent the equivalent of that money on significant signings. On 24 different players, a far cry from 2. Over about 6 years.

[weams]

We can afford lots of players that never end up signing, I wouldn't put much weight in what we "can afford" but more what Pete is willing to spend.

I think there is a good possibility neither will be here long term much less both.

I mean this is a team that has a previous max contract(singular) of 85 milliion. And you think Pete is going to kick out 300m plus in a year(ish) time frame?

Right after Roberts deal until now is when they have spent the equivalent of that money on significant signings. On 24 different players, a far cry from 2. Over about 6 years.

http://nypost.com/2015/12/26/241m-juggling-act-how-yanks-tread-line-between-threat-and-phillies/

[Tx Oriole]

Hard to see Potter handing out a 300 million contract in the next year or two. I hope I am wrong, but if not, then you gotta trade.

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Yes you are probably right. Manny is home grown talent. I'd rather give Manny

150 million than CD. I just hope Peter can see the importance of Manny and will

do something to keep Manny. IMO

[El Gordo]

Yes you are probably right. Manny is home grown talent. I'd rather give Manny

150 million than CD. I just hope Peter can see the importance of Manny and will

do something to keep Manny. IMO

As a FA Manny could make an AAV 35-40 M.

[Can_of_corn]

I would be more inclined to sign Machado long term but neither HAS to be extended for the Orioles to remain competitive and relevant. Just need to know when to get the most value in return. Machado cannot be allowed to walk away for a draft pick. I don't think the Orioles have the balls or the smarts to trade him before that though.

If the team is bad (90+ losses) in 2017 I could see him getting moved at the deadline or after the season.

[weams]

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/blog/orioles-talk/machado-hoping-orioles-are-able-keep-him-around

“I’m actually not. I knew we had to do something. The front office has been working on making this ballclub the best team out there on the field, and I think they’re accomplishing that. Obviously we really didn’t bring new faces in here, but I don’t think we need new faces,” Machado said.

“You bring those guys back who are going to help this team no matter what. It makes this team much better, makes us stronger. We’re just looking forward to playing together again.”

Machado, who is free of the health worries that plagued him a year ago when he was six months removed from his second knee surgery in a year, is still three years away from free agency. He hopes to remain here.

“They’re trying to keep everybody here. That’s good for me. I hope they keep me here long-term. But the case is you can’t sign everybody. You can’t bring everybody back. It’s just part of the business,” Machado said.

“I think we have one of the best clubhouses in the game. I’m just fortunate to be a part of it and hopefully I’m here for a long time.”

Chris Davis’ seven-year, $161 million contract was nearly twice the team’s record contract.

“I mean there’s hope. That brings out hope,” Machado said. “It just brings me hope that they’re trying to keep everybody here and hopefully they can come up with something and we can make something happen.”

[El Gordo]

10 years with an opt out after 5.

[Redskins Rick]

That choice would be very obvious. Manny is far more likely to provide excess value compared to Davis. But we don't have the luxury of waiting to see if we can lock up Manny before making a decision on Davis.

I personally feel we can afford both. It's really more a question of whether the Davis contract is worthwhile on a standalone basis.

I would like to think that DD and PAG are smart enough to know, if they can only afford one, then Manny needs to be that one.

[Don_Aase_Fan]

Manny saying all the right things there. If I could, I'd hand him a blank check and not even blink.

[Redskins Rick]

Manny saying all the right things there. If I could, I'd hand him a blank check and not even blink.

I think Buck and this clubhouse, is a good place for a young player to play and learn how things are done, the right way.

[El Gordo]

I think Buck and this clubhouse, is a good place for a young player to play and learn how things are done, the right way.

Yep. After 3 more years he'll be ready to be a Yankee.

[LA2]

As all of you do, I believe that Manny will be a superb player for many more years. But given the glaring inability of the Oriole farm system to cultivate enough new frontline players, especially SPs, we've got to consider the possibility of trading Manny for several top-rated prospects at positions that will open up in the next 1-2 years. Seems to me that's a much quicker and reliable path than trying to improve the farm system from within. There, I've said it!

[Stotle]

I think arbiters have collectively decided to act like the Howard awards never happened.

Howard had the hardware. Manny doesn't.

[Stotle]

I do not think Manny is an Oriole with a long term commitment to Davis in place.