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By Sports Guy · Posted
But you think spending money means we are better. You mentioned Alonso...He will cost 15-20M, at least. He is not better than what we already have yet YOU would feel better because money is spent. If are buying the same product, would you rather pay $10 or $50? Spending less on Tyler Oneill than Alonso to get similar production is just smart. Everything about your way of thinking is illogical. You don't show any understanding of payroll, how it works, how to spend properly, etc...all you see is the total number and you equate that to winning...which is bs. And btw, you are suggesting that (w/r/t Adames). The Orioles have Henderson, Holliday, Mayo, Cowser, GRod, Bautista, Cano, Westburg and Kjerstad making about 7M in 2025. You see that as a problem because "we can spend more money and the payroll should be higher" when in fact part of the reason the payroll is low is because the Os have a lot of cheap young talent providing a ton of surplus value. You don't block that or trade that or anything else just so you can feel better about a payroll number because that gives you some false sense of security that "they are trying". The O's ended with a payroll over 100M this year. 40M is coming off of that payroll and then some will be added in because of some raises, a full year of Eflin and some options that will be picked up. Right now, I would estimate the payroll to be about 82M for 21 players. Of the remaining players, you need 2 starters (one of those 2 starters may already be in the org and they won't be making any money either), 2 bench guys (one of them being a back up C) and a reliever. There is room to spend and they should but the roster is likely 75-80% set. There is only so much room to go up in payroll and they don't need to "go crazy" so that people feel better about things. That's dumb and foolish. -
By OriolesMagic83 · Posted
Best hopes to get from back from 91 wins to 100 is for Mayo and Holliday to become above average regular to All Star level players. Will it happen? Who knows? I'm hopeful. More for Holliday than for Mayo. The O's will have to spend major money for at least a #2 starter. Will Rubenstein step up? -
By Bemorewins · Posted
Nope. Never said or suggested anything like I would rather have Wily Adames over Gunnar. But extending Gunnar would be great! To answer your original question of why am I concerned about payroll is because I want better for the Baltimore Orioles than simply a playoff birth at this point. And I want the team to be relevant in the market so that more fans/people are drawn to support the team. The nickle and diming approach is not attractive to a lot of people/fans. The message it sends is that we are willing to go this far and no further. And historically speaking it does not produce championships. 40+ years and counting is long enough for me. -
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By Sports Guy · Posted
Why do you get so caught up in payroll prices? The Os have Gunnar for 750K next year. Do you think we would be a better team spending 15-20M on Wily Adames? -
By Bemorewins · Posted
I struggle to understand the logic of us cost cutting or targeting players who are lower cost. We are what 27th in MLB in payroll? Is the goal to be 30th? -
By OsFanSinceThe80s · Posted
I thought Bob Costas was a Cardinals fan he sounds like a bigger Yankees homer than John Sterling.
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