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Yeah, I was just thinking the other day how refreshing it is to go into the 9th with a lead and feel confident instead of terrified.

The fact that I don't think about the late innings at all is a testimony to how good our bullpen is, because I used to wake up in cold sweats reliving regular meltdowns.

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Worley, Mac, Bundy and Wilson have done a great job of eating innings so we can keep Britton, O'day, Brach and Givens fresh.

You very rarely see guys out of their roles.

Britton 9th

Oday 8th

Brach 7th

Givens 6th

That stuff matters. Buck has shown that. Except for 2013 we've had great pens.

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Britton and O'Day are as good as any 1-2 punch at the back end of the pen. Britton has my vote as the best reliever in baseball.

SIERA, 2015-2016:

1. Britton 1.21

2. Miller 1.53

3. Jansen 1.58

4. Betances 2.07

That's not even close.

Not to mention, Britton might be getting even better. His swinging strike rates:

2014: 13.1%

2015: 16.4%

2016: 20.1%

His current 20.1% leads all of MLB.

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All this is why I'm happy the Orioles retained Darren O'Day. Now I have to wonder what they do with Britton.

And this is why I wanted to retain Andrew Miller. There is a new dynamic in mlb, just like there is a new dynamic in the nba. We need to recognize that as an organization. The conventional wisdom of not paying big money to relievers is wrong. Of course, each situation has to be addressed separately but it's a hell of a lot more cost efficient to pay 4 stud relievers 200 million than to pay one ace 200 million imo

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And this is why I wanted to retain Andrew Miller. There is a new dynamic in mlb, just like there is a new dynamic in the nba. We need to recognize that as an organization. The conventional wisdom of not paying big money to relievers is wrong. Of course, each situation has to be addressed separately but it's a hell of a lot more cost efficient to pay 4 stud relievers 200 million than to pay one ace 200 million imo

I think we learned from the Andrew Miller thing and kept O'day. Luckily having a dirt cheap Brach fills that Andrew Miller void.

Really the conventional wisdom for the O's needs to be to stop paying SP's Ubaldo and Gallardo money and just go get one of the big boys.

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I think we learned from the Andrew Miller thing and kept O'day. Luckily having a dirt cheap Brach fills that Andrew Miller void.

Really the conventional wisdom for the O's needs to be to stop paying SP's Ubaldo and Gallardo money and just go get one of the big boys.

I can't disagree more. We pay someone 200 million to start and he gets hurt, that would cripple us for years. Grow the arms and pay for stud relievers seems to be a better equation for mid market teams in todays dynamic.

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You very rarely see guys out of their roles.

Britton 9th

Oday 8th

Brach 7th

Givens 6th

That stuff matters. Buck has shown that. Except for 2013 we've had great pens.

Givens has come on in the 6th in one of his last nine appearances...

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I think we learned from the Andrew Miller thing and kept O'day. Luckily having a dirt cheap Brach fills that Andrew Miller void.

Really the conventional wisdom for the O's needs to be to stop paying SP's Ubaldo and Gallardo money and just go get one of the big boys.

But what if the "big boy" that you get performs the way that Price and Greinke are performing? Having a great bullpen is so very important. One reason that Verlander had to finish the game is because the Tigers' bullpen is so leaky. As for O'Day, I am very happy that we will have him for 4 years. 4 more years of "O'DAY, O'DAY, O'DAY, OOOOHHHH!"
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Worley, Mac, Bundy and Wilson have done a great job of eating innings so we can keep Britton, O'day, Brach and Givens fresh.

That's a great observation. It's crazy, but Britton has become an elite closer. And O'Day is an elite setup guy. That's just a brutal back end of the bullpen. You don't want to get dragged into that deep water. What if this is Gausman? As in, he's really this good? What if Tillman bounces fully back? Then Gallardo comes back and contributes, and Wilson hangs in the mix somehow? Suddenly, we could be looking at an actual good team.

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