"He embarrassed himself" - O'Day rips Wegner

[duffaphonic]

The ump called it as he saw it. Had DOD done his job afterwards we would not have been talking about this.

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They should have played this after that horrible call.

[OFFNY]

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They should have played this after that horrible call.

Derek Dyer ...... I wonder if he is related to former Mets catcher Duffy Dyer ???

[MDtransplant757]

Derek Dyer ...... I wonder if he is related to former Mets catcher Duffy Dyer ???

He probably wouldn't be playing organ for the Cubs Single A team, that's for certain.

[Reboulet'sStache]

You said that the Orioles pay O'Day a lot more money to do his job than the umpire gets paid to do this.

That's an inappropriate assessment/analogy of what is expected to happen on baseball field and/or what is debated about after the fact.

It may have been a bad call, or it may not have been. The money has nothing to do with it.

We can expect O'Day to overcome a bad call and get an extra strike, as we can expect pitchers to also overcome an error by a teammate and get a 4th out of an inning out without allowing any more damage to occur, but that was not the crux of your post of which I responded to.

It's a perfect assessment.

Some pitchers don't have good stuff and the mental makeup to pitch that late in the game against that lineup. They need all judgment calls to go their way for them to survive. Those pitchers don't get 4 year deals and that amount of money.

We can and should expect O'Day, based on what the O's pay him, to not be that pitcher. Judgment calls aren't going to go your way all the time. You are paid at a level to have the kind of stuff to get that strike, and to have the mental makeup out there to not let a 50-50 or 60-40 judgment cause you to lose it.

That was the crux of my post. O'Day is paid far too much to be the pitcher that needs a 60-40 to go his way in order to not give up back to back HRs in the 8th with 2 two outs and two strikes. So I don't really care to hear him complain about some ump not doing his job, when it's O'Day that didn't do the job he was paid to do.

[OFFNY]

It's a perfect assessment.

Some pitchers don't have good stuff and the mental makeup to pitch that late in the game against that lineup. They need all judgment calls to go their way for them to survive. Those pitchers don't get 4 year deals and that amount of money.

We can and should expect O'Day' date=' based on what the O's pay him, to not be that pitcher. Judgment calls aren't going to go your way all the time. You are paid at a level to have the kind of stuff to get that strike, and to have the mental makeup out there to not let a 50-50 or 60-40 judgment cause you to lose it.

That was the crux of my post. O'Day is paid far too much to be the pitcher that needs a 60-40 to go his way in order to not give up back to back HRs in the 8th with 2 two outs and two strikes. So I don't really care to hear him complain about some ump not doing his job, when it's O'Day that didn't do the job he was paid to do.[/quote']

This was your post of which I responded to:

Not as bad as O'Day is making it seem. He gets paid far more to get that last strike than that ump gets to be right on close calls.

You compared O'Day getting paid a lot more to do his job than the umpires did to do his, which has nothing to do (nor should it have) with the call on the field, and whether or not O'Day had a legitimate complaint about it.

The umpire's salary has nothing to do with whether or not Darren O'Day complaining about a bad call was legitimate, whether O'Day makes $8 Million a year, or $500,000 per year.

[LA2]

When was the last time O'Day popped off about an umpire. Never? He certainly has given up HR in game situations before. Has to be more about the ump IMO.

That's what surprised me--O'Day is deservedly admired for keeping his cool and bearing down in high-leverage situations, such as all those bases-loaded jams he pitched his way out of last year. I hope it's just an isolated outburst and not a sign of something deeper having gone wrong in his ability to focus and execute as our set-up man.

[weams]

Not as bad as O'Day is making it seem. He gets paid far more to get that last strike than that ump gets to be right on close calls.

It was a horrible call. Horrible. It does not excuse the next two pitches.

[weams]

It's a perfect assessment.

Some pitchers don't have good stuff and the mental makeup to pitch that late in the game against that lineup. They need all judgment calls to go their way for them to survive. Those pitchers don't get 4 year deals and that amount of money.

We can and should expect O'Day' date=' based on what the O's pay him, to not be that pitcher. Judgment calls aren't going to go your way all the time. You are paid at a level to have the kind of stuff to get that strike, and to have the mental makeup out there to not let a 50-50 or 60-40 judgment cause you to lose it.

That was the crux of my post. O'Day is paid far too much to be the pitcher that needs a 60-40 to go his way in order to not give up back to back HRs in the 8th with 2 two outs and two strikes. So I don't really care to hear him complain about some ump not doing his job, when it's O'Day that didn't do the job he was paid to do.[/quote']

You have your opinion of the call, but I will have to say to anyone inclined to agree with you to watch it with their own eyes. You are incorrect here.

[OFFNY]

It was a horrible call. Horrible. It does not excuse the next two pitches.

I agree.

Good teams need to overcome bad calls, and good pitchers need to overcome bad calls, errors by their teammates, etc. and occasionally get a 4th out (and sometimes even a 5th out) in a single inning.

[El Gordo]

O'Day gets paid more than the ump so we can expect him to be perfect while the ump can screw up? That's like saying O'Day gets paid more than the equipment manager so while he must always have clean innings the unis can be dirty. :rolleyestf:

[sportsfan8703]

I don't mind that O'day said that. He's earned that right. He doesn't do it all the time and he's "paid his dues". Not something you want to see the younger guys do. Sometimes things like this are calculated and thought out. In our division we have to fight for any call we can get.

[Going Underground]

I have seen O'Day get mad a few times at Bautista after giving up homers.I don't see how calling out an ump will get you the calls.I would think the opposite.

[blid]

O'Day needs to reel it in. Yes, the umpire missed the call, but O'Day threw two horrible pitches immediately following that ended up in the seats and that is ALL on him.

Is he so mad about the call because they hit two homers off him, or did they hit two homers off him because he was so mad about the call?

[crawjo]

Why does it have to be part of the game when you can remove it?

Americans seem more concerned about "getting it right" when it comes to meaningless sporting events than they do about things that actually matter. The game is better with human umpires. We aren't trying to cure cancer here. "Getting it right" is NOT the single most important thing.