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Wieters' QO in Hindsight


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Offering Wieters the QO is the right approach. You don't have to commit multi years to a catcher. If you, get burned, it's just one season. If he doesn't accept you get a pick. I'd do the same thing next season.

I did not expect him to accept.

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The same. The Orioles absolutely should have offered him the QO, and I'm surprised he took it. He's overpaid, for sure. But even after this season the Orioles still need to sign Matt Wieters because they have no one else.
Offering Wieters the QO is the right approach. You don't have to commit multi years to a catcher. If you, get burned, it's just one season. If he doesn't accept you get a pick. I'd do the same thing next season.

I did not expect him to accept.

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Yep, this.

I wasn't even upset when he accepted. I was apprehensive about Joseph taking over the starting role.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joseph will avoid 'risk of catching' for a month following testicular surgery: <a href="https://t.co/5y46E8dBaE">https://t.co/5y46E8dBaE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OriolesTalk?src=hash">#OriolesTalk</a> <a href="https://t.co/T6xnmyPRX0">pic.twitter.com/T6xnmyPRX0</a></p>? CSN Orioles (@CSNOrioles) <a href="
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Yep, this.

I wasn't even upset when he accepted. I was apprehensive about Joseph taking over the starting role.

Me too. I thought it was the exact right thing for DD to do. And I think Matt does enjoy working for Buck. I would do it again.

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He's on pace for a 2 WAR season, which would be about worth the QO. And Joseph hasn't hit at all, so the idea that the difference between them wasn't worth the cost turns out to be wrong if Joseph struggles like that all year (which I hope he won't).

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Was 100% for it, thought him accepting it was something like 25%...he's doing well this year. Was worried for awhile it'd be the worst possible case scenario: $16m, injured and draft pick down the toilet. But if he continues at this pace and the CBA isn't changed, then we offer him another QO at the end of the season and someone will most definitely sign him on and we get the pick back.

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Was 100% for it, thought him accepting it was something like 25%...he's doing well this year. Was worried for awhile it'd be the worst possible case scenario: $16m, injured and draft pick down the toilet. But if he continues at this pace and the CBA isn't changed, then we offer him another QO at the end of the season and someone will most definitely sign him on and we get the pick back.

As everyone knows, I never thought anyone would accept a QO. I was surprised that anyone did. I guess the money got to be too much and the types of players offered, too marginal.

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Was 100% for it, thought him accepting it was something like 25%...he's doing well this year. Was worried for awhile it'd be the worst possible case scenario: $16m, injured and draft pick down the toilet. But if he continues at this pace and the CBA isn't changed, then we offer him another QO at the end of the season and someone will most definitely sign him on and we get the pick back.

Yeah, not so sure they don't offer him a Hardy type deal if he remains healthy and produces at the same level.

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Whenever Scott Boras gets to pull your pants down in public to the tune of $15.8 million that's a hint that your decision-making process needs tweaking.

Would you rather have Matt Wieters at this juncture or that money devoted to a starting pitcher? Maybe Gallardo would never have needed to be signed. Maybe we still have the 14th round pick, because the off season would have unfolded much differently. So on and so forth...

FWIW Matt's current OPS+ is 101. His career OPS+ is 100. Just like it always is. The man is nothing if not predictable.

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Whenever Scott Boras gets to pull your pants down in public to the tune of $15.8 million that's a hint that your decision-making process needs tweaking.

Would you rather have Matt Wieters at this juncture or that money devoted to a starting pitcher? Maybe Gallardo would never have needed to be signed. Maybe we still have the 14th round pick, because the off season would have unfolded much differently. So on and so forth...

FWIW Matt's current OPS+ is 101. His career OPS+ is 100. Just like it always is. The man is nothing if not predictable.

Without Wieters you don't get Trumbo. So.

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Whenever Scott Boras gets to pull your pants down in public to the tune of $15.8 million that's a hint that your decision-making process needs tweaking.

Would you rather have Matt Wieters at this juncture or that money devoted to a starting pitcher? Maybe Gallardo would never have needed to be signed. Maybe we still have the 14th round pick, because the off season would have unfolded much differently. So on and so forth...

FWIW Matt's current OPS+ is 101. His career OPS+ is 100. Just like it always is. The man is nothing if not predictable.

Some folks think that Trumbo wouldn't be in Baltimore if Wieters hasn't accepted the QO.

I would rather not have Joseph's 23 OPS+ and shaky defense as the O's everyday catcher.

I also don't think 1/15.8M to put into the cash reserves gets the O's a better pitcher than Gallardo.

He's on pace for 2 WAR, 2 WAR is worth about 16M, not sure how they comes off as a pantsing.

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