I'm going to say it first...

[backwardsk]

Does 20+ wins get him a Cy Young?

Not if Chris Sale finishes the season.

[scOtt]

Does 20+ wins get him a Cy Young?

Probably not. Not 20 wins alone. He's struggled mightily to get to 12 wins.

I want to take you higher ........

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[ArtVanDelay]

Does 20+ wins get him a Cy Young?

It shouldn't.

[Aristotelian]

Not if Chris Sale finishes the season.

I would think Salazar, Kluber, Carrasco, Stephen Wright, and Estrada are ahead of Tillman for sure.

[ExileAngelos]

Crazy it has been since Mike Boddicker since we have had a 20 game winner.

[LookitsPuck]

75 games left. 15 games left for Tillman.

In 18 games, he's 12-2. So he reached a decision in 78% of his games.

Assuming he reaches a decision in his last 15 starts, he'll have 12 games to go at least 8-4. Doable with this offense.

[El Gordo]

I think he gets 20.

[Nevermore]

I don't see him going anywhere, not with $19 mil owed to him.

I don't think so, either. It's difficult for any pitcher to get a win while pitching mop-up. But who know, maybe Ubaldo can do it.

[Nevermore]

Back on a positive note: I think that it's possible for Tilly to win at least 20 games.

[Bahama O's Fan]

Does 20+ wins get him a Cy Young?

Has anyone ever won the Cy Young without making the all star team?

[Phantom]

Does 20+ wins get him a Cy Young?

God I hope not.

[DrungoHazewood]

Does 20+ wins get him a Cy Young?

He's 12th in the AL in ERA, tied for 21st in fWAR, 15th in strikeouts, 13th in innings, is tied for 2nd in wins with J.A. Happ (who not coincidentally is also not going to win the Cy Young), and it's not 1986. So, no.

[DrungoHazewood]

Has anyone ever won the Cy Young without making the all star team?

I'd be stunned if that hasn't happened. Did Sutcliffe make the All Star team the year he was traded to the Cubs and went 16-1, 2.69 down the stretch?

[OFFNY]

Has anyone ever won the Cy Young without making the all star team?

Yes.

Don Newcombe (1956)

Mike McCormick (1967)

Mike Cuellar (1969)

Jim Palmer' date=' Twice (1973, 1976)

Gayolord Perry (1978)

Mike Flanagan (1979)

Pete Vuckovich (1982)

LaMarr Hoyt (1983)

John Denny (1983)

Rick Sutcliffe (1984)

Bret Saberhagen, Twice (1985, 1989)

Roger Clemens (1987)

Doug Drabek (1990)

Greg Maddux (1993)

Pat Hentgen (1996)

Johan Santana (2004)

Felix Hernandez (2010)

Corey Kluber (2014)

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[DrungoHazewood]

God I hope not.

Maybe the old sportswriters can get together and give their own award based on how the world should be, hand it out at the Rotary Club. Criteria for pitchers: Wins over 20. If no one gets to 20, no award. Tie breaker, complete games.