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Not pitch hitting for Joseph in the 7th was particularly egregious, but there's no good rationale for Reimold and Joseph continuing to get key ABs with rosters expanded.

Not pinch hitting for Joseph there is one of the worst decisions I can recall Buck making as manager of the O's.

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Not pitch hitting for Joseph in the 7th was particularly egregious, but there's no good rationale for Reimold and Joseph continuing to get key ABs with rosters expanded.

Not pinch hitting for Joseph there is one of the worst decisions I can recall Buck making as manager of the O's.

I do agree. Even if you want to give Wieters the full night off, you have Pena to come into the game and not much of a drop off in defense.

Pedro or Kim should have been PH in that situation, if your going to carry 3 catchers... might as well use them when necessary.

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We were in the lead. I think Buck wants to give Joseph a chance to get off the schneid. He failed.

Joseph: .188 / .234 / .205 with 0 RBIs for the season.

We're in a dog fight for a playoff spot. Giving a backup catcher who might not ever actually play in the playoffs a critical at bat so that he can get 1 RBI is not even close to justification for increasing the risk that we lose a very important, winnable game. Kim should have been pinch hitting there IMHO.

While we are at it, I know that most everyone loves Adam Jones here (I do love him for his hustle, leadership and overall makeup) but striking out on 5 pitches out of the strike zone with men on 1st & 2nd and one out last night was easily the worst at bat I've seen all year. I'm not sure why any pitcher throws him strikes.

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I hope you also love him because he's a really, really good baseball player.

He certainly has been, but as for 2016, not so much. He's going to end up around average it appears.

This troubling trend has also held so far, wRC+ last 5 years:

127, 119, 116, 109, 105

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I disagree with the premise of this thread. The most important thing for the O's at that point - with a 2-0 lead - was for the bullpen to finish the job. This was Wieter's day off, and it's important to give him that day off. And I'm not going to rely on a green MLB catcher to finish off the game. Besides, as some point it's up to Joseph to actually come through offensively. We know he's a poor hitter, but we also know he's not as bad as he's shown this year.

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I disagree with the premise of this thread. The most important thing for the O's at that point - with a 2-0 lead - was for the bullpen to finish the job. This was Wieter's day off, and it's important to give him that day off. And I'm not going to rely on a green MLB catcher to finish off the game. Besides, as some point it's up to Joseph to actually come through offensively. We know he's a poor hitter, but we also know he's not as bad as he's shown this year.

Buck could have pinch hit for Joseph, then brought in Pena...but I agree, Buck is playing the long game with Joseph and wants him confident and sharp down the stretch. Unfortunately Caleb didn't come through.

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Buck could have pinch hit for Joseph, then brought in Pena...but I agree, Buck is playing the long game with Joseph and wants him confident and sharp down the stretch. Unfortunately Caleb didn't come through.

And if you're Brach or Britton... or Buck, you want Joseph catching over Pena at the end of a close game.

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As I said in the game thread (I think), I would have batted Kim or Alvarez for Caleb. Girardi probably would have brought in Tommy Layne, but if so the lefty-on-lefty matchup, with the Yankees then going deeper into the bad part of their pen to face the top of the lineup, would have been better than having Joseph hit. As Earl would have said, at that point we had the gun loaded, and you have to take your best shot to blow the game open. Looking at it another way, having Joseph hit was a lot like playing for one run, by having Caleb hit a fly ball or run-scoring grounder, when there was a potential big inning.

I don't see a problem with Pena catching the rest of the game, even if it stays 2-0.

The bench is longer than it was a week ago. Use it.

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Not pitch hitting for Joseph in the 7th was particularly egregious, but there's no good rationale for Reimold and Joseph continuing to get key ABs with rosters expanded.

Not pinch hitting for Joseph there is one of the worst decisions I can recall Buck making as manager of the O's.

I don't think Nolan is a need. The team won though. Shut out the Yankees twice. Why can't you be happy about that?

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