Skip Miley, Start Ubaldo @DET

[O's are Legends]

Yeo, Ubaldo is very resilient. He puts up with O's fan booing him off the mound. I bet those fans are cheering now.

They are, the same way they also cheer on Kim after booing him as well.

[weams]

Miley is left hand handed. Detroit and Toronto destroy them.

You are right. It was just Chen and Gonzalez that they treated like minor leaguers.

[Nevermore]

They are' date=' the same way they also cheer on Kim after booing him as well.[/quote']Let's go with the ones who are hot. Kim was hot today, as usual. Which is one of many reasons why I choose not to boo O's players.

[weams]

You are right. It was just Chen and Gonzalez that they treated like minor leaguers.

And Chen's starts are still a Canadian holiday.

[Mirko Crocop]

I wont say he WILL be that guy, but I told OH about 10 days ago, that I had a dream that Ubaldo took us to the playoffs and was almost unhittable.Of course, I had dreams about a lot of things that didnt happen. Elle Mcpherson was in one of those dreams.

Did she pitch game 2 or 3 of the World Series in yours, Roy?

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[weams]

Did she pitch game 2 or 3 of the World Series in yours, Roy?

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I think Roy may have been a body paint artist in that one.

[25 Nuggets]

I would have Ubaldo face Detroit on the 10th and hold off Miley.

9/6 @TB Gallardo

9/7 @TB Bundy

9/8 OFF

9/9 @DET Gausman

9/10@DET Ubaldo

9/11@DET Tillman

and go from there. Miley has not earned a start. Plus give him the Chen treatment and skip him against that RH DET lineup.

The lineup they are trotting out vs Sale tonight,

1. Cameron Maybin, CF ®

2. Jose Iglesias, SS ®

3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B ®

4. Victor Martinez, DH (S)

5. J.D. Martinez, RF ®

6. Justin Upton, LF ®

7. JaCoby Jones, 3B ®

8. James McCann, C ®

9. Andrew Romine, 2B (S)

Miley should be nowhere near that.

Completely agree with the OP. Jimenez gives you the better chance (emphasis on "chance") to win.

[Aristotelian]

Here is a hypothetical modified 6-man with Tillman coming back on the 11th, trying to give Bundy an extra days rest while keeping Tillman and Gausman on normal rest. This makes Gallardo into essentially a spot starter, gives us Bundy and Gausman in both of the Red Sox series. This does have us skipping Miley vs DET.

9/5 TB Ubaldo

9/6 TB Gallardo

9/7 TB Bundy

9/8 OFF

9/9 DET Gausman

9/10 DET Ubaldo (normal rest skipping Miley)

9/11 DET Tillman

9/12 BOS Miley (2 days extra rest)

9/13 BOS Bundy (extra rest)

9/14 BOS Gausman (normal rest)

9/15 TB Ubaldo (normal rest)

9/16 TB Tillman (normal rest)

9/17 TB Miley (normal rest)

9/18 TB Gallardo (spot start to give Bundy an extra day)

9/19 BOS Bundy (extra rest)

9/20 BOS Gausman (extra rest)

9/21 BOS Tillman (skipping Ubaldo)

9/22 BOS Miley (normal rest)

[wildcard]

Did she pitch game 2 or 3 of the World Series in yours, Roy?

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Elle can do anything she wants.

[sportsfan8703]

Sort of...

Tigers OPS vs RH: .772

Tigers OPS vs LH: .753

Tigers OPS vs RH starters: .746

Tigers OPS vs LH starters: .776

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/split.cgi?t=b&team=DET&year=2016

We don't have a Sale, Quintana, Rodon, Duffy, level lefty SP. I'll stick to traditional match ups here. Miley should be a reliever until a match up presents itself. ST 17'.

[eddie83]

Here is a hypothetical modified 6-man with Tillman coming back on the 11th, trying to give Bundy an extra days rest while keeping Tillman and Gausman on normal rest. This makes Gallardo into essentially a spot starter, gives us Bundy and Gausman in both of the Red Sox series. This does have us skipping Miley vs DET.

9/5 TB Ubaldo

9/6 TB Gallardo

9/7 TB Bundy

9/8 OFF

9/9 DET Gausman

9/10 DET Ubaldo (normal rest skipping Miley)

9/11 DET Tillman

9/12 BOS Miley (2 days extra rest)

9/13 BOS Bundy (extra rest)

9/14 BOS Gausman (normal rest)

9/15 TB Ubaldo (normal rest)

9/16 TB Tillman (normal rest)

9/17 TB Miley (normal rest)

9/18 TB Gallardo (spot start to give Bundy an extra day)

9/19 BOS Bundy (extra rest)

9/20 BOS Gausman (extra rest)

9/21 BOS Tillman (skipping Ubaldo)

9/22 BOS Miley (normal rest)

I am all for it except I would pitch Gallardo instead of Miley vs Boston on 9/12 and 9/22. All those right handed hitters on Boston.

[sportsfan8703]

Here is a hypothetical modified 6-man with Tillman coming back on the 11th, trying to give Bundy an extra days rest while keeping Tillman and Gausman on normal rest. This makes Gallardo into essentially a spot starter, gives us Bundy and Gausman in both of the Red Sox series. This does have us skipping Miley vs DET.

9/5 TB Ubaldo

9/6 TB Gallardo

9/7 TB Bundy

9/8 OFF

9/9 DET Gausman

9/10 DET Ubaldo (normal rest skipping Miley)

9/11 DET Tillman

9/12 BOS Miley (2 days extra rest)

9/13 BOS Bundy (extra rest)

9/14 BOS Gausman (normal rest)

9/15 TB Ubaldo (normal rest)

9/16 TB Tillman (normal rest)

9/17 TB Miley (normal rest)

9/18 TB Gallardo (spot start to give Bundy an extra day)

9/19 BOS Bundy (extra rest)

9/20 BOS Gausman (extra rest)

9/21 BOS Tillman (skipping Ubaldo)

9/22 BOS Miley (normal rest)

Looks like a possible plan. I want Miley nowhere near the sox. I think Gallardo will pitch well enough tomorrow and start in the BOS series. Buck is just going to have to face facts that Gallardo is a 75 pitch pitcher and yank him. With the expanded rosters we can do this. We really need O'day back too.

I could see a box score like this tomorrow

Gallardo 4.2 2 ER

Hart 0.1

Givens 1.0

Duensing 0.1

Brach 1.2

Britton 1.0

Gotta fire all our bullets. Keep grinding games out.

[LookitsPuck]

I'd be ok with Miley being shelved the rest of the season. He's been terrible.

[FlipTheBird]

I wouldn't say he's labored through any of them.

5 IP 1 R

6 IP 1 R

6.2 IP 3 R (2 runs in the 7th inning)

9 IP 3 R

Still, I'd agree he's not likely to go on a 7-8 week run of dominance. I'll take a 7-8 week run of competence.

That's kind of loading the numbers a bit, just focusing on runs. Laboring doesn't necessarily mean he lost. In the same order...

5 IP, 1 R, 8 baserunners, 104 pitches

6 IP, 1, R, 5 baserunners, 90 pitches

6.2 IP, 3 R, 7 baserunners, 101 pitches

9 IP, 3 R, 3 baserunners, 114 pitches

So he's done better than I was probably giving him credit for, but he hasn't cruised. At least not until today.

[El Gordo]

Here is a hypothetical modified 6-man with Tillman coming back on the 11th, trying to give Bundy an extra days rest while keeping Tillman and Gausman on normal rest. This makes Gallardo into essentially a spot starter, gives us Bundy and Gausman in both of the Red Sox series. This does have us skipping Miley vs DET.

9/5 TB Ubaldo

9/6 TB Gallardo

9/7 TB Bundy

9/8 OFF

9/9 DET Gausman

9/10 DET Ubaldo (normal rest skipping Miley)

9/11 DET Tillman

9/12 BOS Miley (2 days extra rest)

9/13 BOS Bundy (extra rest)

9/14 BOS Gausman (normal rest)

9/15 TB Ubaldo (normal rest)

9/16 TB Tillman (normal rest)

9/17 TB Miley (normal rest)

9/18 TB Gallardo (spot start to give Bundy an extra day)

9/19 BOS Bundy (extra rest)

9/20 BOS Gausman (extra rest)

9/21 BOS Tillman (skipping Ubaldo)

9/22 BOS Miley (normal rest)

I'd skip Miley v BOS on the 12th I have more confidence in Gallardo.