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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

If we bring Trumbo back for something like 4/$70 mm, I think that's a mistake.   I'm really concerned with how we are allocating our resources.  

I'd run the team differently too. See, I don't need a World Series win to be happy. But my methods would probably fail as I have no skill set to run a team.

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And of course these insiders have additional information regarding the character of the players and knowledge of enhancement techniques that we don't have. I believe that the Orioles try to retain the character guys when they can as well as win.

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And of course these insiders have additional information regarding the character of the players and knowledge of enhancement techniques that we don't have. I believe that the Orioles try to retain the character guys when they can as well as win.

I'm all in favor of that.   I really enjoyed having Trumbo on the team last year, but my top priorities are Manny and Tillman, and anyone who absorbs large sums of cash that might prevent us from signing those two guys is a mistake in my book.   I doubt Trumbo ever has an offensive year as good as last year, and he provides no defensive value to us.

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5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I'm all in favor of that.   I really enjoyed having Trumbo on the team last year, but my top priorities are Manny and Tillman, and anyone who absorbs large sums of cash that might prevent us from signing those two guys is a mistake in my book.   I doubt Trumbo ever has an offensive year as good as last year, and he provides no defensive value to us.

I agree completely. I'm ok either way. I do not think that there is a static amount of funds available. I believe owners adapts that to levels of success. Manny is not signing in my opinion and the team appears to know that. So the focus is on Tillman and successful offense at this point it appears. I'd love to get the pick if the DH slot gets too expensive also. 

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Is Trumbo your RF against lefties or full time DH? What is done with Mancini? Just leave him in Triple A even though he has nothing left to prove there? Use him as a piece in a trade?

I imagine we will still sign or trade for a left handed hitting RF.  Who is that going to be though? 

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11 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

Is Trumbo your RF against lefties or full time DH? What is done with Mancini? Just leave him in Triple A even though he has nothing left to prove there? Use him as a piece in a trade?

I imagine we will still sign or trade for a left handed hitting RF.  Who is that going to be though? 

It's doubtful that Mancini has great value in a trade right now. He has little to prove at Harbor park that's for certain. I have no idea if he could stand in left-field to fill the Reimold slot on the team. 

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13 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

Is Trumbo your RF against lefties or full time DH? What is done with Mancini? Just leave him in Triple A even though he has nothing left to prove there? Use him as a piece in a trade?

I imagine we will still sign or trade for a left handed hitting RF.  Who is that going to be though? 

If I were guessing, I'd say Bourn or Saunders. Myself. 

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I too do not understand the focus on signing Trumbo. If budget is a concern, then IMO you have to let Mancini try the role. There is a significant difference between 15M and .5 M. I like Trumbo and all, but I also get a certain excitement watching young players develop. I guess you can sign Trumbo and see how the season goes and trade him if things go South. I just don't care for the focus on one dimensional power hitters. I would like to see a year go bye where we are not worried about a corner outfielder.

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1 minute ago, UpstateNYfan said:

I too do not understand the focus on signing Trumbo. If budget is a concern, then IMO you have to let Mancini try the role. There is a significant difference between 15M and .5 M. I like Trumbo and all, but I also get a certain excitement watching young players develop. I guess you can sign Trumbo and see how the season goes and trade him if things go South. I just don't care for the focus on one dimensional power hitters. I would like to see a year go bye where we are not worried about a corner outfielder.

Even TonyOH does not see Mancini as a Trumbo of last season replacement. Offensively. They are probably similar defensively. Except for Trumbo's huge arm. 

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6 minutes ago, weams said:

Even TonyOH does not see Mancini as a Trumbo of last season replacement. Offensively. They are probably similar defensively. Except for Trumbo's huge arm. 

Even Trumbo is probably not a Trumbo of last year replacement. If last year turns out to be an outlier, whoever signs him will be sorry.

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I'm wondering what the O's think they are signing? What are they projecting for Trumbo for the next 4 years

I figure a .240/.300/..490 type hitter with 35 HR's a year, negative defensive value, negative base running value

Is that really worth 15 million a year?

Sure would like to see what some other team is willing to sign him for

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7 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

I'm wondering what the O's think they are signing? What are they projecting for Trumbo for the next 4 years

I figure a .240/.300/..490 type hitter with 35 HR's a year, negative defensive value, negative base running value

Is that really worth 15 million a year?

Sure would like to see what some other team is willing to sign him for

That may be entirely what the O's are doing, too... They've made an offer, it's on the table, and they've invited Trumbo to go out and seek other landing spots. When he sees the market, the O's offer may not sound that bad.

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