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8 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

I loved Trumbo on the one year deal, but I liked him only in that role.   He's not a guy you want to tie up to multiple years and big money.   Please let him go to the Rockies and let's get that draft pick.

 

I don't mind him for like 3/35 as a pure DH....but nothing more.

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45 minutes ago, joeyc said:

That guy had a career year that he will never repeat. He overachieved. I have a feeling that was a one and done deal, like Chris davis

Chris Davis has had 2 really good seasons. 

Davis was still better than Trumbo this year despite his career year.

They aren't comparable. 

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52 minutes ago, joeyc said:

That guy had a career year that he will never repeat. He overachieved. I have a feeling that was a one and done deal, like Chris davis

Exactly. If there is one lesson from the Davis deal, it's don't commit to that long term contract when a player is at peak value. Buy low, sell high. Repeat the mantra. We should be looking for the next Adam Jones deal, although we already missed the boat on Manny. 

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1 hour ago, webbrick2010 said:

I'm wondering what the O's think they are signing? What are they projecting for Trumbo for the next 4 years

I figure a .240/.300/..490 type hitter with 35 HR's a year, negative defensive value, negative base running value

Is that really worth 15 million a year?

Sure would like to see what some other team is willing to sign him for

Trumbo would have more value playing 1B in the NL at Coors field for 81 games, than he would playing RF for the O's.  4/70-80 might not be worth it for us, but it might be for them.  

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1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Trumbo would have more value playing 1B in the NL at Coors field for 81 games, than he would playing RF for the O's.  4/70-80 might not be worth it for us, but it might be for them.  

I really doubt that the Orioles are anywhere near 4/$70 in their offer to Trumbo.  That was reported last week as the figure Trumbo's agent has come down to from $80 million, but, as far as I know, the Orioles were somewhere around a 3 year deal with option that would come to $50-52 if it went the four years.  I don't know, of course, but it seems to me that it is likely that the Orioles are holding fast to that and inviting Trumbo to go ahead and look elsewhere for a better deal.

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2 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Davis is oddly a little underrated on here.  Probably because he's been suspended and then had a "down" year for the last two playoff runs.  Hopefully his hand injury will not be a problem next year.  

sometimes the OH can be a bit harder on "our" own guys, and think higher of the guys on other teams.

 

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Why shouldn't we be though? Professional athletes making millions shouldn't be coddled for their inability to fix the things that they struggle with. It used to bug the crap out of me that Shaq couldn't sink a free throw. We know AJ is gonna swing at the breaking ball low and away... we just know it... and he knows it. Why should we let him off the hook? 

I want Crush to cut his k's in half, even if that means he cuts his HR's down too. Sometimes he looks silly. I don't pay my hard earned $ to see you strike out 4 times. 

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