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2014: .275/.328/.454, 266 runs, 78 homers, 236 RBI, +34.3 UZR

2015: .249/.300/.419, 242 runs, 72 homers, 225 RBI, -1.4 UZR

2016: .261/.323/.432, 241 runs, 79 homers, 220 RBI, -36.7 UZR

Seems to me that you could argue that overall, our 2016 outfield was the worst of the three.   It's close, anyway, when you factor in the defense.

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4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

2014: .275/.328/.454, 266 runs, 78 homers, 236 RBI, +34.3 UZR

2015: .249/.300/.419, 242 runs, 72 homers, 225 RBI, -1.4 UZR

2016: .261/.323/.432, 241 runs, 79 homers, 220 RBI, -36.7 UZR

Seems to me that you could argue that overall, our 2016 outfield was the worst of the three.   It's close, anyway, when you factor in the defense.

If you speak UZR.

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If our OF broke even on stats like UZR and DRS in 2017, I would consider that a minor miracle.  

Adam Jones needs to play back a step, first off.  I don't know who thinks he is, but he's not Willie Mays in his prime or even Adam Jones in his prime.  The best guys I have seen on a regular basis over the last few years (Kiermaier and Pillar) play deep.  It doesn't just help the OF get back on balls over his head better, but provides a significantly better angle on balls hit in the gap. 

I think Adam, Seth Smith, and Joey Rickard have the ability to at least be average out there, not that they necessarily will be.  I worry about the 40 or so games Trumbo may have to play in RF and the 120 or so that Kim will be out in LF.  

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8 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

If our OF broke even on stats like UZR and DRS in 2017, I would consider that a minor miracle.  

Adam Jones needs to play back a step, first off.  I don't know who thinks he is, but he's not Willie Mays in his prime or even Adam Jones in his prime.  The best guys I have seen on a regular basis over the last few years (Kiermaier and Pillar) play deep.  It doesn't just help the OF get back on balls over his head better, but provides a significantly better angle on balls hit in the gap. 

I think Adam, Seth Smith, and Joey Rickard have the ability to at least be average out there, not that they necessarily will be.  I worry about the 40 or so games Trumbo may have to play in RF and the 120 or so that Kim will be out in LF.  

I don't want to see Joey out there either as a starter. 

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10 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

I don't want to see Joey out there either as a starter. 

It's doubtful he will be unless there is an injury to one of the other outfielders.  I'm expecting him to be a regular in left with when there is a LHP on the mound and late inning defensive replacement.  Kim, Jones, and Smith is going to be the most common OF alignment. 

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6 minutes ago, pastorfan said:

No we are missing Cruz

We have Trumbo. He replaced most of Cruz's production with the bat. Cruz was not much better than Trumbo defensively. Seriously, we just need a 2 WAR guy with decent OBP and an arm, but apparently those guys do not grow on trees.

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10 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

We have Trumbo. He replaced most of Cruz's production with the bat. Cruz was not much better than Trumbo defensively. Seriously, we just need a 2 WAR guy with decent OBP and an arm, but apparently those guys do not grow on trees.

Cruz in 2014 was significantly better than Trumbo in 2016.

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