Jump to content

What Can A Healthy Dylan Bundy Achieve In 2017?


PressBoxOnline

Recommended Posts

Dylan Bundy is looking forward to entering spring training without the shadow of injuries looming over him, and he's been working on developing his cut fastball as a fourth pitch option.

"Any time I get on a mound and compete, it's going to be fun," Bundy said. "I always like more work than less. I think that's everybody that plays this game."

https://www.pressboxonline.com/2017/02/08/can-a-healthy-orioles-dylan-bundy-make-2017-even-better-than-2016

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hopefully he can make 30 starts this year. I'm not too concerned with total innings count, only that he takes the mound every 5th day.

Hoping to see an ERA somewhere around 3.75 this year. If Bundy can reincorporate the cutter into his repertoire, without discomfort, maybe he can provide a low 3's ERA?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

39 minutes ago, Spy Fox said:

What I hope for from him is 150+ innings with an ERA of 4ish or less. I think he has a good chance of being better than that but that's the baseline I think we need. 

This.  150 healthy innings will bring a lot of good things, IMO.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

56 minutes ago, Es4M11 said:

Hopefully he can make 30 starts this year. I'm not too concerned with total innings count, only that he takes the mound every 5th day.

Hoping to see an ERA somewhere around 3.75 this year. If Bundy can reincorporate the cutter into his repertoire, without discomfort, maybe he can provide a low 3's ERA?

Same here. His cutter was his bread and butter, and if it works well, we'll be in real good shape

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Spy Fox said:

What I hope for from him is 150+ innings with an ERA of 4ish or less. I think he has a good chance of being better than that but that's the baseline I think we need. 

I think he starts off strong and Dan and Buck ride him like a rented mule.  He fades in the second half.

170 innings FIP of around 3.8

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fangraphs has a piece up today analyzing last year's AL starting pitchers with too few innings to qualify based on various measures of quality of contact:

Quote

For a long time, it appeared that Dylan Bundy might never deliver on the extreme promise he exhibited as an amateur and low-level minor leaguer. Last season changed all that. Bundy’s traditional 2016 numbers didn’t do him justice. Hitters batted an outlandish .809 AVG-1.015 SLG (142 Unadjusted Contact Score) on liners, while his underlying data supported a much lower 96 mark. He has a go-to pop-up tendency, which, combined with his ability to limit authority in the air (79 Adjusted Contact Score), bodes well for his future as a contact manager. Over time, it wouldn’t be surprising to see improvement in both his K and BB rates. In Bundy and Kevin Gausman, the O’s still could have true No. 1-2 starters, the only thing they’ve been missing in their recent run of contention.

Of course, there is also this comment:

Quote

Potential star alert: keep a very close eye on Eduardo Rodriguez. There weren’t enough colors in the above table to properly reflect Rodriguez’ ability to muffle contact authority; his overall, fly-ball and grounder-authority levels were all over two STD below AL average. There are clear areas to mark for improvement: his BB rate remains high, and he has allowed higher than average liner rates in both of the last two seasons. He’ll also need to modify his extreme fly-ball rate somewhat, though he might be the rare fly-ball guy who can survive and even thrive in Fenway.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2016-al-starting-pitcher-contact-management-non-qualifiers/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Phantom said:

I think we are overly optimistic on him. The projection systems are fair to him. 150 innings with a 4.50 ERA (4.70 FiP) is what I expect. Anything better is a win.

Of course the projections are low on the innings, he only pitched 109.2 last season.  But who thought he would pitch that much?  If he's effective I expect Buck to send him out for substantially more than 150.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

54 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Of course the projections are low on the innings, he only pitched 109.2 last season.  But who thought he would pitch that much?  If he's effective I expect Buck to send him out for substantially more than 150.

His pitch efficiency will determine how many innings he can go.    Buck never let him throw 100 pitches in a game last year, and he threw 17.8 pitches per inning (which is very high).   As a result, he threw less than 6 IP in all but three starts.    Even if you throw out his first three starts where he was ramping up, he averaged only 5.24 innings per start.   He won't exceed 150 innings by much unless he starts throwing fewer pitches per inning.    Think Erik Bedard circa 2004.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Frobby said:

His pitch efficiency will determine how many innings he can go.    Buck never let him throw 100 pitches in a game last year, and he threw 17.8 pitches per inning (which is very high).   As a result, he threw less than 6 IP in all but three starts.    Even if you throw out his first three starts where he was ramping up, he averaged only 5.24 innings per start.   He won't exceed 150 innings by much unless he starts throwing fewer pitches per inning.    Think Erik Bedard circa 2004.

Do you think Buck is going to continue to draw the line at 100 pitches?  If so, why?

 

As for Bedard, on one hand you have a guy asking to be taken out and on the other hand you have a guy that is willing to pitch both ends of a double header.  Not sure he's the best comp for Bundy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Do you think Buck is going to continue to draw the line at 100 pitches?  If so, why?

 

As for Bedard, on one hand you have a guy asking to be taken out and on the other hand you have a guy that is willing to pitch both ends of a double header.  Not sure he's the best comp for Bundy.

Why do you always try and drum on the negative side?

What did Buck do last year in his handling of Dylan to make you believe, he is just going to throw him out there and not exercise sound judgment?

IMO, I think as Dylan matures as a pitcher, he will reduce his pitch count, and like Gausman has.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

Why do you always try and drum on the negative side?

What did Buck do last year in his handling of Dylan to make you believe, he is just going to throw him out there and not exercise sound judgment?

IMO, I think as Dylan matures as a pitcher, he will reduce his pitch count, and like Gausman has.

Am I the only one that remembers comments to the effect that Bundy won't be limited in his pitching anymore than Gausman will in 2017?

This isn't the quote I am specifically talking about but it doesn't sound like Buck will be following a 100 pitch limit.

Quote

Manager Buck Showalter expressed confidence that the young right-hander will be ready to handle the load of being in the starting rotation for the entire year.

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/orioles-dylan-bundy-not-expected-to-face-innings-limit-in-2017/

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Why do you always try and drum on the negative side?

What did Buck do last year in his handling of Dylan to make you believe, he is just going to throw him out there and not exercise sound judgment?

IMO, I think as Dylan matures as a pitcher, he will reduce his pitch count, and like Gausman has.

Oh yea, this part. 

I call it like I see it and readily explain my reasoning and support any positions I take.

If you have an issue with me not providing unrelenting enthusiasm you can feel free to put me on /ignore.

In this particular instance I think they were borderline negligent in how they handled Bundy last season.  To my untrained eye he looked like he was pitching on fumes the last two months of the year, and from what I have read, pitching when fatigued is a good way to get hurt.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Am I the only one that remembers comments to the effect that Bundy won't be limited in his pitching anymore than Gausman will in 2017?

This isn't the quote I am specifically talking about but it doesn't sound like Buck will be following a 100 pitch limit.

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/orioles-dylan-bundy-not-expected-to-face-innings-limit-in-2017/

 

Okay, so you think maybe its a stretch of handling the load of a Starting Rotation Pitcher, to ride him like a rented mule?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.



  • Posts

    • I guess my question would be this: what is the level of production he would have to have to make it okay for Westburg/Ortiz to stay down? Does this production even exist? I am also assuming with this question that those 2 are producing in AAA.
    • Here is   the issues the MSA is running into with the stadium improvement financing. *As of March 13, 2023, project is cancelled. Project will rebid but no definite date yet.** https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2023/03/07/baltimore-ravens-stadium-upgrades-financing.html After promising the Baltimore Ravens up to $600 million worth of upgrades to their stadium if the team resigned its lease, the Maryland Stadium Authority is now exploring how to finance those renovations amid a difficult economic environment. Chief Financial Officer David Raith told the Stadium Authority’s board on Tuesday that the agency won’t be able to finance $435 million in planned improvements to M&T Bank Stadium with only tax-exempt bonds and is seeking the OK to find a bank loan or other financing to pay for up to $200 million of the project costs. Financing updates to the Baltimore Ravens stadium primarily using tax-exempt bonds, a cheaper option, won’t work because those types of bonds have to be spent in a three-year period. If the money is not spent in three years, Raith said the authority would be at risk of being penalized by the Internal Revenue Service. “I knew there was no way we could spend $600 million in three years,” Raith told the Baltimore Business Journal after the meeting. Raith wants to split the $435 million cost into two methods of financing — $235 million in tax-exempt revenue bonds and $200 million in taxable financing. That money could be raised through a letter of credit, a taxable bond deal or a bank loan. Acquiring taxable debt will be costly as Raith predicted the $200 million in taxable financing would have an interest rate of 5.6%, compared to 3.6% for the tax-exempt bonds. He said the agency would prefer a bank loan for the $200 million because the agency would not have to pay interest until it starts using the loan funds, which could save millions of dollars a year. But Raith said he first needs to see if there are any lenders interested in ponying up the money. “I just don’t know whether there is enough commitment from the banking community for something like that,” he said. The renovations are part of a plan by the state to incentivize both the Ravens and Orioles to stay put in Baltimore. The Maryland General Assembly last year passed House Bill 896, which allowed the stadium authority to borrow $1.2 billion in bonds to pay for improvements to both stadiums. The stadium improvement funds were used as a carrot to get the teams to sign long-term leases. Once the team signed a lease, it would then get access to $600 million. The Ravens in January signed a 15-year lease extension that keeps the team at M&T Bank Stadium until 2037. The signing of the lease started a one-year period for the stadium authority to get financing in place for planned upgrades to M&T Bank Stadium. The Ravens could not be reached for comment. To get all $435 million for renovations financed as quickly as possible, the stadium authority approved a measure on Tuesday allowing Raith to start exploring how he wants to secure the $200 million in taxable borrowing. But the authority also needs the Maryland General Assembly to pass legislation that would allow dual financing for the project. House Bill 524 introduced in Annapolis would create separate financing funds for both the Ravens and Orioles project costs. The clock is ticking for Raith to secure this funding. He said a potential increase by the Federal Reserve of the federal interest rate could cost the authority and taxpayers millions more. “With rising interest rates, the [Maryland Stadium Authority] is trying to get to market as soon as possible to get the best interest rates and generate as much money as possible to ensure we can complete the projects,” Raith said. Unlike the Ravens, the Orioles have yet to sign a lease. The Orioles' lease is up at the end of 2023 and Raith said if the Orioles sign a long-term lease the stadium authority would have to repeat this process again. Raith said he was surprised that the Ravens lease agreement happened first because the team's deal still had five years left on it. “I don’t think anyone expected that the Ravens would be the first ones to the plate because the Orioles' lease was the one that really was a top priority,” Raith said
    • Someone should ask him about maybe having the highest prices for beer of any team? This is at the new market stores. 16oz beers are $10.99 for domestic and $12.49 for craft, hard, seltzers, or imported beers. 24oz beers are $14.99 for domestic and $15.75 for imports or hard seltzers. 12oz canned cocktails are $12.99.
    • I would say "stunning".... but is it, really?
    • Don't like this answer either.He is going to do Baltimore a favor and give them a gift. Don't trust him. Plus the Ravens stadium improvement money may not all come from bonds and maybe have to partially pay it off with a bank loan. As the MSA said the longer you wait on the financing, the more it will cost the taxpayers. I have heard the longer you wait and with interest rates rising the State is not sure the Orioke improvements can all be done with public funds.   The Orioles will play their first home game next Thursday, and Gov. Wes Moore and his children will throw out the first pitch. The Orioles’ current lease with the state of Maryland, its landlord, expires at the end of the year. Angelos has said that he hopes signing a long-term lease can be an “All-Star break gift,” meaning the deal would be done by early July. He didn’t provide an update on timing Thursday when asked, but said “we’re going to come through” when it comes to the lease. “There’s no question about it,” he said.
    • During the game, Angelos was asked if the Orioles would seek contract extensions with players such as Rutschman or top rookie Gunnar Henderson. Other teams have signed young players to long-term deals to avoid losing them later in free agency. For example, Wander Franco signed an 11-year, $182 million deal with the Tampa Bay Rays — a small-market team like the Orioles — this offseason. The Cleveland Guardians, another franchise Angelos pointed to as a team the Orioles would like to emulate, this week signed their young star, Andrés Giménez, to a seven-year contract reportedly worth $106.5 million. Angelos first pointed to the difficulty that small market teams face in MLB as compared to the NFL but did say he hoped that executive vice president and general manager Mike Elias would be able to extend the team’s young talent.   They’re going to do what they can within the system that they’re in. Does that mean extensions? Absolutely, I would hope so. But you gotta go with the system you’re in. It’s much, much, much tougher to be in the baseball system than in the football or basketball system,” he said.
    • “It’s an interesting concept and I saw that my good friends at The Baltimore Sun wanted to weigh in on that today. When the hedge fund that owns The Baltimore Sun, based in New York City, wants to open their books, I guess we’ll take a look at that. It’s difficult for me to understand what that fascination is,” Angelos said in the interview during the Orioles’ 10-9 win over the host Boston Red Sox on opening day.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...