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17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Thirteen fewer walks in 79 innings is kinda a big difference.

Oh, I'm very aware. I'm noting that it's literally the only difference between 2015 and 2016 for Brach. His BB/9 was the best of his career, but his other ratios were all the same. Too often, I feel, the Brach detractors here make it sound like last year came out of nowhere and that they need to flip him before he flops. But the guy has been fairly consistent on all other levels.

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20 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Thirteen fewer walks in 79 innings is kinda a big difference.

Seriously. I can't believe anyone is blowing this off like it's no big deal. It translates roughly to a 0.3 - 0.5 jump in expected ERA.

 

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24 minutes ago, Rene88 said:

Good post sir.

I'll note that, even with all that said, I'm not against trading Brach in the right deal. I just don't feel there's any pressure to move him, for fear of him falling off the face of the planet. He's a very strong 7th inning arm (given that, with a healthy O'Day, the 7th is where we'll most often see Brach) that brings no shortage of value to the club. I'm personally a big fan of having a loaded bullpen. Especially given the state of the O's starting rotation.

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4 minutes ago, Phantom said:

Seriously. I can't believe anyone is blowing this off like it's no big deal. It translates roughly to a 0.3 - 0.5 jump in expected ERA.

 

So even if he regressed and walked at the same right, his ERA would jump to 2.52? Not exactly chopped liver.

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6 minutes ago, Phantom said:

Seriously. I can't believe anyone is blowing this off like it's no big deal. It translates roughly to a 0.3 - 0.5 jump in expected ERA.

 

Also, as an FYI, his BB/9 went up for ~2.7BB/9 in the first half to ~3BB/9 in the second last year. In 2015, it was 4.31.

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3 hours ago, Rene88 said:

Good points all the way around, but Jason Garcia has the same issue. People can develop pitches. Brach is not all that amazing. He had a REALLY dominate half a season. I think you (and MLB) are overestimating him. The time for trading him is now..but that is another point.

I'm not that high on Jason Garcia, or Tanner Scott for that matter.    As to Brach, I was careful not to call him elite, though he certainly was elite for half a season last year.    Without burdening him with labels, in three years with the Orioles Brach has a 2.61 ERA and carries a 9.6 K/9.    I don't feel Wright could "easily" replace that.  Yes he may improve, and make it to Brach's level if he's lucky, but it won't be easy.   

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9) Jason Garcia  - (24) 1-0 4.25 ERA, 0 S, 29 IP 25 H, 22 SO, 1,418 WHIP in the ML

 

 

On 3/6/2017 at 3:45 PM, OFFNY said:

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6 OUTS: o 2 Strikeouts, 2 Flyouts, 1 Groundout, 1 Popout 

JASON EMILIO GARCIA o)o (vs. TIGERS, 3/06) )) [ [Spring Training] 

IP:;)..l) 2

H:))))l  0 )  ll

R:ll)lll) 0

BB:olll)0 o *

SO:l))l 2

Pitches: l) (Unavailable)

2017 ERA: l) 7.94 0(Spring Training)

*  ) Garcia had 1 Hit Batsman

 

PITCHES BY INNING

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(Unavailable)

 

 

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Garcia was optioned to AAA-Norfolk yesterday.

 

https://twitter.com/masnRoch/status/839595447257870336

 

 

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On 2/23/2017 at 7:22 PM, wildcard said:

 

8) Chris Lee - (24) 9-2, 3.02 ERA, 15G 14S, 89 IP, 73 H, 45 SO, 1.187 WHIP at A-Bowie

 

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Entered the game with a runner on 1st base and nobody out, in the 4th inning.

8 out of the 9 outs that Lee recorded came via the Strikeout and the Groundout.

 

9 OUTS: o 4 Strikeouts, 3 Groundouts (Including 1 Double Play), 1 Thrown Out at Home Plate 

CHRISTOPHER ULYSSES LEE o)o (vs. RED SOX, 3/10) )) [ [Spring Training] 

IP:;)..l) 3 o *

H:))))l  1 )  ll(1 Single)

R:ll)lll) 0

BB:olll)1 

SO:l))l 4

Pitches: l) (Unavailable)

2017 ERA: l) 2.25 0(Spring Training)

2017 WHIP: l) 0.750 0(Spring Training)

*  ) Lee entered the game with a runner on 1st base, and nobody out.

 

PITCHES BY INNING

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1 hour ago, OFFNY said:

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Entered the game with a runner on 1st base and nobody out, in the 4th inning.

8 out of the 9 outs that Lee recorded came via the Strikeout and the Groundout.

 

9 OUTS: o 4 Strikeouts, 3 Groundouts (Including 1 Double Play), 1 Thrown Out at Home Plate 

CHRISTOPHER ULYSSES LEE o)o (vs. RED SOX, 3/10) )) [ [Spring Training] 

IP:;)..l) 3 o *

H:))))l  1 )  ll(1 Single)

R:ll)lll) 0

BB:olll)1 

SO:l))l 4

Pitches: l) (Unavailable)

2017 ERA: l) 2.25 0(Spring Training)

2017 WHIP: l) 0.750 0(Spring Training)

*  ) Lee entered the game with a runner on 1st base, and nobody out.

 

PITCHES BY INNING

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(Unavailable)

 

 

 

What? No pitch count? I don't wanna hear the ol ST excuse for GD, the game was TELEVISED. You can count, right? :eek:

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Entered the game with a runner on 1st base and nobody out, in the 4th inning.

8 out of the 9 outs that Lee recorded came via the Strikeout and the Groundout.

 

9 OUTS: o 4 Strikeouts, 3 Groundouts (Including 1 Double Play), 1 Thrown Out at Home Plate 

CHRISTOPHER ULYSSES LEE o)o (vs. RED SOX, 3/10) )) [ [Spring Training] 

IP:;)..l) 3 o *

H:))))l  1 )  ll(1 Single)

R:ll)lll) 0

BB:olll)1 

SO:l))l 4

Pitches: l) (Unavailable)

2017 ERA: l) 2.25 0(Spring Training)

2017 WHIP: l) 0.750 0(Spring Training)

*  ) Lee entered the game with a runner on 1st base, and nobody out.

 

PITCHES BY INNING

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(Unavailable)

 

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

 

What? No pitch count? I don't wanna hear the ol ST excuse for GD, the game was TELEVISED. You can count, right? :eek:

 

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I cheated.

I stopped counting after Jimenez came out of the game.

 

 

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On 2/23/2017 at 7:22 PM, wildcard said:

 

2) Gabriel Ynoa - (24) 0-0, 3.18 ERA, 3 S,  11 IP, 14 H, 11 SO,  1.500 WHIP as a ML starter

12-9, 3.97 ERA,  25 S, 154 IP, 170 H, 78 SO, 1.361 WHIP in the  AAA PCL.

 

 

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0 earned runs over 2 innings pitched.

 

6 OUTS: o 3 Groundouts, 2 Strikeouts, 1 Flyouout

GABRIEL YNOA GOMEZ o)o (vs. PIRATES, 3/11) )) [ [Spring Training] 

IP:;)..l) 2

H:))))l  1 ) ll(1 Single)

R:ll)lll) 1

ER:.l)) 0

BB:olll)1o 

SO:l))l 2

Pitches: l) (Unavailable, Because I Suck)

2017 ERA: l)  1.50 0(Spring Training)

2017 WHIP: l)  1.000 0(Spring Training)

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PITCHES BY INNING

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