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6 minutes ago, Larry18 said:

Are you sure they used an option in 2015? 

Gausman was optioned twice in 2015 for a total of 26 days.  

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/player-bio/kevin-gausman/bio

He was eligible for a 4th option in 2016 but it was not used.  The 4th option expires after one year.

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  • A player may be eligible for a fourth option year if he has been optioned in three seasons but does not yet have five full seasons of professional experience. A full season is defined as being on an active pro roster for at least 90 days in a season. The 90-day requirement means short-season leagues (New-York Penn, Northwest, Pioneer, Appalachian, Gulf Coast, Arizona Rookie, Dominican and Venezuelan Summer Leagues) do not count as full seasons for the purposes of determining eligibility for a fourth option.
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Actually, just got this from someone in the O's management. 

On whether Gausman has an option still.

"Yes, he has one remaining. He has a 4th option because prior to the commencement of the 2017 season,he had less than 5 seasons at the ML and Mil levels combined."

So maybe, just maybe a guy as connected to the Orioles as Bordick may actually know something about this stuff?

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13 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Roster Resource is always on point.  They even know the SP's when they are TBD.  

They say Gausman has an option remaining.  

https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-baltimore-orioles

This kind of stuff just gets me. I literally go out and get the information directly from the Orioles yet people are still posting stuff like this is still debatable. 

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My apologies to Mr Bordick and every one else.   I did not interpret the rule correctly.   

Gausman will not have 5 professional seasons in according to the rules until early July.  So he can be optioned until that time.

Thanks Tony.

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21 hours ago, wildcard said:

I listen and read these guys for new information about the O's.  When I read stuff like this I just shake my head and wonder how they can be this close to the O's organization and not understand what is going on.

You rely on Mike Bordick for new information about the Orioles?   Really? 

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7 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Fair and balanced. Roch too,

They have very different jobs.    Roch's job is to obtain news about the team and report it accurately.    Bordick's job is to comment on what is happening in games as they are ongoing.     He's not very good at that job, but that's beside the point.    He's the last guy I'd expect to be on top of the nuances of who has options and that sort of trivia.     

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

They have very different jobs.    Roch's job is to obtain news about the team and report it accurately.    Bordick's job is to comment on what is happening in games as they are ongoing.     He's not very good at that job, but that's beside the point.    He's the last guy I'd expect to be on top of the nuances of who has options and that sort of trivia.     

Yet he was right in this case.   Good for Bordick.   And I say that as another person who would really prefer to not listen to him on the broadcast if possible.

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2 minutes ago, Aglets said:

Yet he was right in this case.   Good for Bordick.   And I say that as another person who would really prefer to not listen to him on the broadcast if possible.

I have heard Bordick on the radio talk about the Orioles. He seems much more honest and witty and knowledgeable.. He goes on to the color broadcaster  side and becomes not very interesting or insightful. Not sure why he changes on TV. Wish he would be like in his interviews on the radio.

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21 hours ago, wildcard said:

Gausman was optioned twice in 2015 for a total of 26 days.  

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/player-bio/kevin-gausman/bio

He was eligible for a 4th option in 2016 but it was not used.  The 4th option expires after one year.

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  • A player may be eligible for a fourth option year if he has been optioned in three seasons but does not yet have five full seasons of professional experience. A full season is defined as being on an active pro roster for at least 90 days in a season. The 90-day requirement means short-season leagues (New-York Penn, Northwest, Pioneer, Appalachian, Gulf Coast, Arizona Rookie, Dominican and Venezuelan Summer Leagues) do not count as full seasons for the purposes of determining eligibility for a fourth option.

Is this a new rule under the new CBA?     I've never heard it before.       If this rule had been in effect last year, Bundy would have been eligible to be optioned, correct?

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19 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

This kind of stuff just gets me. I literally go out and get the information directly from the Orioles yet people are still posting stuff like this is still debatable. 

I'm curious, how is this stuff officially tracked? I assume at the league level there is some sort of database that only teams have access to?

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37 minutes ago, Frobby said:

They have very different jobs.    Roch's job is to obtain news about the team and report it accurately.    Bordick's job is to comment on what is happening in games as they are ongoing.     He's not very good at that job, but that's beside the point.    He's the last guy I'd expect to be on top of the nuances of who has options and that sort of trivia.     

Actually, he's a guy I would trust a lot because of his access to team officials, Buck and the coaching staff. Let's not forget, Bordick is still basically a coach for the organization and although we can spend all day critiquing his announcing style, he' still very much up on what's happening with the club. He may not always come across this way on the telecasts, but he's a smart guy who spends a lot of time around the team.

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