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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

The numbers saw we've had far worse pitching than this.    

2000 - 5.37 ERA

2006 - 5.35 ERA

2007 - 5.17 ERA

2009 - 5.15 ERA

1996 - 5.14 ERA

2008 - 5.13 ERA

1987 - 5.01 ERA

All worse than the current 4.95 ERA.    And some of those teams had stretches even more brutal than the stretch this team has been in lately.

So yes, I have no trouble remembering times when the Orioles' pitching was worse than this.   You don't even need to go back a decade to find a lot of it.    

I haven't researched all those teams, but were the starters worse than the current 5.47?

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2 hours ago, Frobby said:

The numbers saw we've had far worse pitching than this.    

2000 - 5.37 ERA

2006 - 5.35 ERA

2007 - 5.17 ERA

2009 - 5.15 ERA

1996 - 5.14 ERA

2008 - 5.13 ERA

1987 - 5.01 ERA

All worse than the current 4.95 ERA.    And some of those teams had stretches even more brutal than the stretch this team has been in lately.

So yes, I have no trouble remembering times when the Orioles' pitching was worse than this.   You don't even need to go back a decade to find a lot of it.    

Just as one example, the 2007 team had a 39-game stretch where its ERA was 7.61.    That compares with the current team's 6.03 over 34 games.   The 2008 team had a 38 game stretch of a 6.34 ERA.

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

The numbers saw we've had far worse pitching than this.    

2000 - 5.37 ERA

2006 - 5.35 ERA

2007 - 5.17 ERA

2009 - 5.15 ERA

1996 - 5.14 ERA

2008 - 5.13 ERA

1987 - 5.01 ERA

All worse than the current 4.95 ERA.    And some of those teams had stretches even more brutal than the stretch this team has been in lately.

So yes, I have no trouble remembering times when the Orioles' pitching was worse than this.   You don't even need to go back a decade to find a lot of it.    

Give it time. There's 3.5 more months left in the 2017 season.

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5 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

I haven't researched all those teams, but were the starters worse than the current 5.47?

Only the 2008 team.    The 1996 team also had starters at 5.47, but I give them a pass since the whole league had a sky high ERA that year.   

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This discussion motivated me to look up exactly who was in that '08 rotation. You can tell from the names that was a rebuilding team while 2017 is one that is trying to contend. Our starters in 2017 have been bad, but they're guys who have all had some levels of success at some point (except Asher). The 2008 rotation was just a bunch of guys who never made it. Guthrie had a good year, but the other guys who got more than 10 starts were Daniel Cabrera, Garrett Olson, Brian Burress, Radhames Liz, and Chris Waters. 

Also I had no memory of the fact that team was actually 61-63 on August 17. I'm sure some of the optimists were hoping for a strong last month to break the losing streak... but then they went 7-30 the rest of the way to finish with only 68 wins. 

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26 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said:

Thankfully, the 3-run deficit streak ended today at 13 games.  Still alive are the following:  14 consecutive games giving up 5 or more runs and 12 consecutive games without a quality start.  

I think Bundy had a QS the first night in NY. We were all so young and innocent then. 

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