Dan could go from goat to hero in a hurry

[Diehard_O's_Fan]

Dan is being bashed by the media and fans right now. People are calling him an absolute idiot. Can you imagine how brilliant he will be if the Orioles reach the playoffs? Would he be an absolute lock to win GM of the year if that does happen? There is excitement in birdland once again. That sure is nice especially after several months of bad baseball. Buckle Up!

[Luke-OH]

Just now, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

Dan is being bashed by the media and fans right now. People are calling him an absolute idiot. Can you imagine how brilliant he will be if the Orioles reach the playoffs? Would he be an absolute lock to win GM of the year if that does happen? There is excitement in birdland once again. That sure is nice especially after several months of bad baseball. Buckle Up!

If the O's make the playoffs, that doesn't mean he made the right decision.  That's like saying just because I once put a lot of my money on 00 in roulette and it hit, that it's a smart move to put a lot of money on 00.  It's not, I got lucky, and if I base my future behavior on the previous good fortune, I'll end up bankrupt.

[Diehard_O's_Fan]

Dan could have traded Britton and Brach for example just for the sake of making a trade. Dan and Peter decided not to blow the team up right now. Therefore, every Orioles fan should be rooting for the Orioles to reach the playoffs. Dan should win GM of the year if that does happen.

[Diehard_O's_Fan]

I agree 100% with you Roy. I think you and I are the only Oriole fans that are not bashing Peter and Dan right now. People should take notice by what you just said.

[LookitsPuck]

If the Orioles make the playoffs, it'll be in spite of Duquette not because of him.

[billw76]

Wouldn't Angelos be the hero since the reports say it was him that didn't ok any trades? Either way I'm hoping this team goes on a run the rest of the way, I'd much rather watch winning baseball.

[eddie83]

3 hours ago, LookitsPuck said:

If the Orioles make the playoffs, it'll be in spite of Duquette not because of him.

Any GM should be evaluated for the work they have done, good and bad. That said it floors me at times how much heat he gets. 

Being the GM of the Orioles is a hard job.

-The obvious is the owner. All the talk of the Astros trade that fell through just cements that even more.

-He can't take part in Latin America. Owner. 

-Buck Showalter. I love Buck but in this day and age he has more power than most managers.  

- Brady Anderson. Brady's unique job and his relationship with Angelos is another hurdle.  

-NYY and Boston. The resources those two teams have and both being in the same division.

I am sure other GM's have limitations placed upon them as well but Dan does not exactly have it easy.  

[mdbdotcom]

4 hours ago, Roy Firestone said:

Ive said it yesterday and Ill say it again. Dan did the right thing in acquiring Beckham...for RIGHT NOW.And right now is what we are facing...not 4 years down the road of "maybe this pitcher will be very good". We needed a ss option and this one was a good one.I also think Dan did the right thing in acquiring a decent, serviceable pitcher in Hellickson as a rental. So sue me.

You also thought that signing Trumbo for $12.75MM a year for three years was a steal and you were ecstatic about the Davis and O'Day signings. I don't need to sue you, I just don't often agree with you.

[weams]

5 hours ago, phillyOs119 said:

If the O's make the playoffs, that doesn't mean he made the right decision.  That's like saying just because I once put a lot of my money on 00 in roulette and it hit, that it's a smart move to put a lot of money on 00.  It's not, I got lucky, and if I base my future behavior on the previous good fortune, I'll end up bankrupt.

You are right. It means whoever made the decision was right. The playoffs are the goal. 

[weams]

4 hours ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

I agree 100% with you Roy. I think you and I are the only Oriole fans that are not bashing Peter and Dan right now. People should take notice by what you just said.

I love watching the Orioles win in August and September. I love being in a pennant race. 

[tntoriole]

Let's see if we can get to .500 first before we hand out all the laurels. 

[Frobby]

3 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

Let's see if we can get to .500 first before we hand out all the laurels. 

Yeah, this.     Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.   We've spent more than a month below .500.    Let's get past that hurdle and go from there.    

[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, weams said:

You are right. It means whoever made the decision was right. The playoffs are the goal. 

If the Orioles somehow manage to squeak into the final wildcard slot I don't see how it could be viewed a win. The chance of making the real goal which is to win the World Series isn't happening.

The starting pitching has been good for that past 4 or 5 days. But it's not going to hold up and once our bats are diminished against better starting pitching we are in trouble.

Duquette isnt to blame if he made deals that Angelos vetoed. Same old meddling old man. 

 

GM can't make a deal to improve the future of the team, can't select international players, can't sign good free agent starting pitching, and can't negotiate contracts like the one to Chris Davis where we negotiated against ourselves and way overpaid.

The result no World Series since 83 and none as long as he remains the owner.

[MCO'sFan]

Everyone keeps saying that Angelos vetoed the deal. Did I miss something? The last I read was that Houston had a deal in principle with an unidentified team and that it was "squashed at the top." It didn't identify that the team was the Orioles and it didn't identify what the "top" meant. There were many people trying to link different tweets together to "prove" is was the Os and Angelos. Now we are stating that as fact. My question is legit. Is there a source that has unequivocally identified the Orioles as that team? If not, then let's not state it as fact.

[Roll Tide]

1 hour ago, weams said:

You are right. It means whoever made the decision was right. The playoffs are the goal. 

Really Weams......The Os aren't winning the World Series with our starting pitching. They might get luck and squeak into the 2nd wildcard  and will be quickly eliminated. 

The second wildcard has done what was intended. It allows middling teams to believe they have a shot.