O's at #22 On New BA Farm Rankings

[Can_of_corn]

Post deadline.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/organization-talent-rankings-updated-trade-deadline/#Pw3bu3HZhYpgQSrk.97

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[Frobby]

Where did they have us ranked before?

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Where did they have us ranked before?

Not sure.  I mostly saw the O's around 26-27 in the preseason rankings.

[ChuckS]

22 sounds about right.  

We could maybe be in the top ten if just factoring in position prospects.  Being bottom of the barrel as far as pitching prospects go drags our overall ranking down quite a bit. 

Sisco, Hays, Mullins, Mountcastle, and Santander all have a good shot at being everyday major leaguers.  I don't recall there ever being five position players in our system in the upper minors at the same time that you could say that about. 

[Ruzious]

W

10 hours ago, ChuckS said:

22 sounds about right.  

We could maybe be in the top ten if just factoring in position prospects.  Being bottom of the barrel as far as pitching prospects go drags our overall ranking down quite a bit. 

Sisco, Hays, Mullins, Mountcastle, and Santander all have a good shot at being everyday major leaguers.  I don't recall there ever being five position players in our system in the upper minors at the same time that you could say that about. 

Yeah, who has 5 position guys at AA and above like that?  The #1 Braves have Albies and Acuna and...  

 

 

[jcarm]

10 hours ago, ChuckS said:

22 sounds about right.  

We could maybe be in the top ten if just factoring in position prospects.  Being bottom of the barrel as far as pitching prospects go drags our overall ranking down quite a bit. 

Sisco, Hays, Mullins, Mountcastle, and Santander all have a good shot at being everyday major leaguers.  I don't recall there ever being five position players in our system in the upper minors at the same time that you could say that about. 

The thing is that all 5 of those players may wind up in the outfield. Hays, Mullins and Santander are already outfielders and Sisco and Mountcastle have defensive question marks at their current positions. The O's need some variety.

[ChuckS]

49 minutes ago, jcarm said:

The thing is that all 5 of those players may wind up in the outfield. Hays, Mullins and Santander are already outfielders and Sisco and Mountcastle have defensive question marks at their current positions. The O's need some variety.

I think Sisco will stick at catcher.  He's got that CS percentage up above 20 percent now, which isn't great but it's playable.  He was sitting around 15 percent earlier in the year.  

I'm less bullish on Mountcastle, but looks like they are going to try to make Mountcastle a 3B.  They must really like this hands/glove work to want to keep him in the IF despite his below average throwing arm. 

[sportsfan8703]

On 8/3/2017 at 8:44 PM, Can_of_corn said:

Not sure.  I mostly saw the O's around 26-27 in the preseason rankings.

We'll be right back there once the international signings become official.  That's why we're playing a losing game.  Not enough lotto tickets.  

[hoosiers]

No, we won't be back at 26-27.  These other teams have really gutted their systems as we discussed last week - especially the Cubs.  I had said we would be about 18-22 in a group with Texas, Nats, Minn and the Mets.  I guess we are in the bottom of that grouping, but this last month will be really telling if we can move up a little more - continued domination from Hays, Harvey being healthy and effective, and some guys emerging.

[FlipTheBird]

On 8/4/2017 at 9:27 AM, jcarm said:

The thing is that all 5 of those players may wind up in the outfield. Hays, Mullins and Santander are already outfielders and Sisco and Mountcastle have defensive question marks at their current positions. The O's need some variety.

Have to hope that a couple of these guys work out... and then the O's are able to flip the surplus for prospects at other positions.

[NCRaven]

41 minutes ago, FlipTheBird said:

Have to hope that a couple of these guys work out... and then the O's are able to flip the surplus for prospects at other positions.

You rarely see prospects for prospects trades.  It's much more common to see veterans traded for prospects.  And the more salary cost paid by one team or the other to the veteran will dictate the quality of prospects received.

[Ruzious]

And it might make the most sense to trade Mancini for a pitching prospect.  He's forced to play LF because of the Davis/Trumbo combo signed for eternity in Baltimore.  

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Weren't we next to last after 2016?

On one of the lists I think they were.  Don't recall which.  There are a lot of lists.

[FlipTheBird]

1 hour ago, NCRaven said:

You rarely see prospects for prospects trades.  It's much more common to see veterans traded for prospects.  And the more salary cost paid by one team or the other to the veteran will dictate the quality of prospects received.

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Point being, if the O's have more than one of these guys turn out, they're going to run into a log jam and have to flip one for something.

[Cumberbundy]

3 hours ago, hoosiers said:

No, we won't be back at 26-27.  These other teams have really gutted their systems as we discussed last week - especially the Cubs.  I had said we would be about 18-22 in a group with Texas, Nats, Minn and the Mets.  I guess we are in the bottom of that grouping, but this last month will be really telling if we can move up a little more - continued domination from Hays, Harvey being healthy and effective, and some guys emerging.

The Nats Eaton deal was so freakin stupid. I can't believe Rizzo got that emotional after missing out on Sale. That's a rebound move he'll be regretting for a long time.