Orioles Sign Ryan O'Rourke

[crawjo]

2 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

I'm pissing my pants laughing. Only 10 more months of this fool GM. 

Yes, only idiot GMs sign players to minor league deals in order to have organizational depth. The great GMs only make big signings and awesome trades. 

[MDtransplant757]

3 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

I'm pissing my pants laughing. Only 10 more months of this fool GM. 

[sportsfan8703]

9 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

I'm pissing my pants laughing. Only 10 more months of this fool GM. 

You know we start spring with like a 50 man roster right. Plus we do have to staff AAA and AA with some vets.

I bet you said the same thing about when we signed Brian Duensing. He was pretty good for us that year and then flat out a beast for the Cubs the next. 

 

[Frobby]

26 minutes ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Gentlemen, and in some cases I use the word loosely, I set the bar high for this organization and to see a signing  like this to start the offseason as not only disappointing but pathetic. Scrap heap pitchers for minor league depth are a dime a dozen. From this vantage point, it looks like this is going to be another dumpster fire offseason when instead we need an aggressive agenda to get this franchise on the right track for the long term. So if you think a bunch of Roarke signings do it for you, then God Bless. Enjoy another year at the bottom. Personally, I look forward to the day Duquette hits the bricks.

Nobody is saying that signing guys like O’Rourke (not Roarke) is sufficient.  But there’s absolutely nothing pathetic about signing guys like this to MiL deals.   Every team in baseball does it.    Especially, you see a lot of this early in the offseason before the bigger action starts.   

[Redskins Rick]

32 minutes ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Gentlemen, and in some cases I use the word loosely, I set the bar high for this organization and to see a signing  like this to start the offseason as not only disappointing but pathetic. Scrap heap pitchers for minor league depth are a dime a dozen. From this vantage point, it looks like this is going to be another dumpster fire offseason when instead we need an aggressive agenda to get this franchise on the right track for the long term. So if you think a bunch of Roarke signings do it for you, then God Bless. Enjoy another year at the bottom. Personally, I look forward to the day Duquette hits the bricks.

I am very glad you are not the GM for this team, I would be very scared to see the results.

How the heck did you survive in this town, back in the Syd Thrift end of his era?

 

[Luke-OH]

35 minutes ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Gentlemen, and in some cases I use the word loosely, I set the bar high for this organization and to see a signing  like this to start the offseason as not only disappointing but pathetic. Scrap heap pitchers for minor league depth are a dime a dozen. From this vantage point, it looks like this is going to be another dumpster fire offseason when instead we need an aggressive agenda to get this franchise on the right track for the long term. So if you think a bunch of Roarke signings do it for you, then God Bless. Enjoy another year at the bottom. Personally, I look forward to the day Duquette hits the bricks.

This is a tired, pointless talking point every off season.  If the front office was selling this as a "major addition", then by all means get mad.  It's not, and I know I'm not the only one who doesn't want to hear this stuff after every depth signing.

[interloper]

2 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Gentlemen, and in some cases I use the word loosely, I set the bar high for this organization and to see a signing  like this to start the offseason as not only disappointing but pathetic. Scrap heap pitchers for minor league depth are a dime a dozen. From this vantage point, it looks like this is going to be another dumpster fire offseason when instead we need an aggressive agenda to get this franchise on the right track for the long term. So if you think a bunch of Roarke signings do it for you, then God Bless. Enjoy another year at the bottom. Personally, I look forward to the day Duquette hits the bricks.

You clearly don't understand how the baseball offseason works. Pretty sad, actually. It's pretty easy to figure out.

[Aristotelian]

14 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

I'm pissing my pants laughing. Only 10 more months of this fool GM. 

Because we should be trading for Aroldis Chapman to be our backup LOOGY?

[Number5]

5 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Gentlemen, and in some cases I use the word loosely, I set the bar high for this organization and to see a signing  like this to start the offseason as not only disappointing but pathetic. Scrap heap pitchers for minor league depth are a dime a dozen. From this vantage point, it looks like this is going to be another dumpster fire offseason when instead we need an aggressive agenda to get this franchise on the right track for the long term. So if you think a bunch of Roarke signings do it for you, then God Bless. Enjoy another year at the bottom. Personally, I look forward to the day Duquette hits the bricks.

[ArtVanDelay]

Well this thread is a dumpster fire. 

[MDtransplant757]

5 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Gentlemen, and in some cases I use the word loosely, I set the bar high for this organization and to see a signing  like this to start the offseason as not only disappointing but pathetic. Scrap heap pitchers for minor league depth are a dime a dozen. From this vantage point, it looks like this is going to be another dumpster fire offseason when instead we need an aggressive agenda to get this franchise on the right track for the long term. So if you think a bunch of Roarke signings do it for you, then God Bless. Enjoy another year at the bottom. Personally, I look forward to the day Duquette hits the bricks.

[tntoriole]

16 hours ago, phillyOs119 said:

These types of signings can’t be bad, super low risk, fairly low reward type move.

The guy has been great against lefties, it’s nice to have a guy like that as AAA depth.

Also on the GM note, you realize that until there is a change in organizational philosophy (that comes from above the GM) the Orioles are not going to operate the way a lot of fans/analysts/commentators would prefer they operate.

I have always wondered if Mr. Angelos actually has an organizational philosophy and, if so, what is it exactly? 

[Luke-OH]

Just now, tntoriole said:

I have always wondered if Mr. Angelos actually has an organizational philosophy and, if so, what is it exactly? 

I don't know but over the course of multiple GMs I've seen...

- Refusal to be a serious player in the international amateur market

- Refusal to sign a pitcher to a long term deal

- Refusal to seriously negotiate extensions until player has a breakout and is now expensive

- Refusal to have a clear power structure in the warehouse

- Refusal to have a serious sell off 

It's not all bad, Mr. Angelos will run a solid payroll and seems committed to putting a good product on the field.  He's not a cheapskate as often claimed. 

I just think he should put a baseball person he trusts in charge of all baseball operations, give that person a budget, and leave that person alone.  He shouldn't be caving to Scott Boras sales pitches, he should be saying nice presentation, but that decision is up to my GM.

[tntoriole]

2 hours ago, phillyOs119 said:

I don't know but over the course of multiple GMs I've seen...

- Refusal to be a serious player in the international amateur market

- Refusal to sign a pitcher to a long term deal

- Refusal to seriously negotiate extensions until player has a breakout and is now expensive

- Refusal to have a clear power structure in the warehouse

- Refusal to have a serious sell off 

It's not all bad, Mr. Angelos will run a solid payroll and seems committed to putting a good product on the field.  He's not a cheapskate as often claimed. 

I just think he should put a baseball person he trusts in charge of all baseball operations, give that person a budget, and leave that person alone.  He shouldn't be caving to Scott Boras sales pitches, he should be saying nice presentation, but that decision is up to my GM.

I think he has expectations of his GMs that have been unrealistic.  I think he has hired excellent GMs- Pat Gillick, Andy, DD and he has hired terrible GMs, but I think beginning with Andy, that he has been much less hands on than he was in all the preceding regimes.   But negative refusals often seems to be  a choice as to whether he trusts the GM at the moment or does he base it on his own previous experience.   Having said that, I think both Andy and DD have had much relative independent decision authority than any of those prior GMs and that they can more fairly be held responsible for their choices made within their budgets without just blaming ownership. 

[foxfield]

10 hours ago, birdwatcher55 said:

Gentlemen, and in some cases I use the word loosely, I set the bar high for this organization and to see a signing  like this to start the offseason as not only disappointing but pathetic. Scrap heap pitchers for minor league depth are a dime a dozen. From this vantage point, it looks like this is going to be another dumpster fire offseason when instead we need an aggressive agenda to get this franchise on the right track for the long term. So if you think a bunch of Roarke signings do it for you, then God Bless. Enjoy another year at the bottom. Personally, I look forward to the day Duquette hits the bricks.

Sir, and I use that word intentionally.  Setting a high bar is something I am comfortable saying that almost every single one of us has.  That said, we all have different opinions regarding how that bar can be reached and even sometimes what the impediments are to achieving said goal.  Your post seems childish, not because it expresses disdain for the GM and the move, but because it implies that the signing is the high point of the offseason.  You want DD gone.  Ok you made your point.  You are not alone in that thought, but I do not share that opinion necessarily.  But if you would like your opinions to be taken seriously, I would suggest that in the future, maybe you offer them with more grounded reason than presented above.  The O'Roarke move most certainly will not take the O's to the promised land.  But on all counts, it seems like a well constructed depth move for the organization.  And if you were merely trying to make a joke, most here are accustomed to "Print the playoff tickets now..."

Good luck and I hope my feedback is taken without offense.  Cheers.