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Most thought a trade of Manny would bring back at least one SP.  Now that trading him appears on the back-burner, how do they fill the rotation?  Not too many FAs have signed: Chacin, Chatwood, Gallardo.

With room on the 40 man roster, one move I'd make today is claim Dylan Baker.  This guy has come back from TJS, logged a few innings in AA and Arizona this past season.  With room on the roster, he's a guy you can take a flier on.

I'd imagine that they fill one rotation spot with Castro, Cortes, Wright, or Ynoa.  Baker could be added to this competition.

Do we have enough payroll flexibility to trade for Straily while taking on a contract like Prado or Chen?  

Are there other pitchers with terrible contracts that we could take on that makes the rotation better even if it's an overpay?

What other creative ways would you use to improve the rotation?

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11 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

Most thought a trade of Manny would bring back at least one SP.  Now that trading him appears on the back-burner, how do they fill the rotation?  Not too many FAs have signed: Chacin, Chatwood, Gallardo.

With room on the 40 man roster, one move I'd make today is claim Dylan Baker.  This guy has come back from TJS, logged a few innings in AA and Arizona this past season.  With room on the roster, he's a guy you can take a flier on.

I'd imagine that they fill one rotation spot with Castro, Cortes, Wright, or Ynoa.  Baker could be added to this competition.

Do we have enough payroll flexibility to trade for Straily while taking on a contract like Prado or Chen?  

Are there other pitchers with terrible contracts that we could take on that makes the rotation better even if it's an overpay?

What other creative ways would you use to improve the rotation?

It'll will be the same type low tier pitchers that Angelos and DD think are Gods gift to pitchers. It's certainly no fun watching this bunch tear down the Orioles. Geez can't even bring in good pitching after a bad year. Every fan of the O's knows we need better pitchers. But that won't happen. I was very foolish believing that this offseason Angelos and DD would mean what they said or what DD said about getting better pitchers. Maybe there is still time but I am not holding my breath. 

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27 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

Most thought a trade of Manny would bring back at least one SP.  Now that trading him appears on the back-burner, how do they fill the rotation?  Not too many FAs have signed: Chacin, Chatwood, Gallardo.

With room on the 40 man roster, one move I'd make today is claim Dylan Baker.  This guy has come back from TJS, logged a few innings in AA and Arizona this past season.  With room on the roster, he's a guy you can take a flier on.

I'd imagine that they fill one rotation spot with Castro, Cortes, Wright, or Ynoa.  Baker could be added to this competition.

Do we have enough payroll flexibility to trade for Straily while taking on a contract like Prado or Chen?  

Are there other pitchers with terrible contracts that we could take on that makes the rotation better even if it's an overpay?

What other creative ways would you use to improve the rotation?

Smoke and mirrors my friend, smoke and mirrors. 

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I think Cortes is the 5th starter going into spring training and I think he might end up being a solid under the radar move. 

I'd see if I could get Jake Odorizzi from the Rays by taking on Denard Span's salary.  That gives us a lefty bat with a decent OBP as well. 

What I think they do is sign Jason Vargas and Andrew Cashner to one year deals, Maybe Gonzo as well. 

It'll be enough to have us right there at the deadline when we trade for another 5th starter. 

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I like the Span/Odorizzi idea.  He has two years of control, made 4M+ last season, and the Rays currently have about 7 SP candidates.  What do you think they'd want in return?

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10 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

I like the Span/Odorizzi idea.  He has two years of control, made 4M+ last season, and the Rays currently have about 7 SP candidates.  What do you think they'd want in return?

I wouldn't want to do it but Mancini makes some sense for them because Brad Miller is currently their 1B. 

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This is the key right now.  If you aren't going to admit you need to trade Manny then you have to do everything you can to win.  That means taking payroll all the way back up to where it was and further.

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I think it will be the same as every year.

We'll take until Feb waiting for the market to empty then pounce on any warm body that can eat a few innings, use a Rule V guy to fill a slot, and maybe even use some prospects to overpay for another SP that won't help much.

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34 minutes ago, billw76 said:

I think it will be the same as every year.

We'll take until Feb waiting for the market to empty then pounce on any warm body that can eat a few innings, use a Rule V guy to fill a slot, and maybe even use some prospects to overpay for another SP that won't help much.

Don't forget trading international slots for worthless minor Leaguers and then trading B prospects for guys that won't really make a difference. It's the new Oriole Way.

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1 hour ago, spiritof66 said:

Plan? We don't need no stinking plan!  :confused:

This is unfair.  They've usually run through, at the least, Plans B,C,D,E,F,G and H by the beginning of spring training.

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1 hour ago, Aristotelian said:

My prediction is Miguel Gonzalez, Cashner, and Tillman.

 

4 minutes ago, Fla_O'sfan said:

Maybe they figure they've already filled out the rotation.....through the rule v draft.

Well if it's Miguel Gonzalez, Cashner, and Tillman vs. Ynoa, Mesa, and Cortes.

5.25   Mesa

5.67  Ynoa

4.52   Cortes

5.18   Gonzalez

4.99   Cashner

5.24  Tillman

Those are the STEAMER projected ERAs for each in 2018.

I'd rather go with the guys that will cost 1.5 million combined than the group that will require at least 2 multi-year deals and cost at least 20 million. 

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