Connolly: Six Moves the Orioles Should Make

[Yardball85]

Dan Connolly, in my opinion one of the better writers out there, with an interesting article about moves the Orioles could/should make. The first two: make a decision on Schoop and Machado - top my list as well.

 

http://www.baltimorebaseball.com/2018/01/05/six-reasonable-moves-orioles-make-month-2018-beyond/

[interloper]

1. Any moves at all

2. Repeat five more times

[spiritof66]

Thank you, Captain Obvious. (At least I don't get paid for my un-original suggestions.) The only recommendation I see on here that hasn't been a much-discussed option for a long time is signing Jon Jay, and while I kind of like Jay  I think that would be a bad idea, especially if Trumbo is still around to fill the DH spot most days. 

Connolly prefaces his list by saying "If I were in charge [of the Orioles] for a day – OK, maybe it would take a week – I think I could make a few reasonably priced moves that could make this team better now and for the future." I wonder whether Dan Duquette feels the same way. 

[Yardball85]

1 minute ago, spiritof66 said:

Thank you, Captain Obvious. (At least I don't get paid for my un-original suggestions.) The only recommendation I see on here that hasn't been a much-discussed option for a long time is signing Jon Jay, and while I kind of like Jay  I think that would be a bad idea, especially if Trumbo is still around to fill the DH spot most days. 

Connolly prefaces his list by saying "If I were in charge [of the Orioles] for a day – OK, maybe it would take a week – I think I could make a few reasonably priced moves that could make this team better now and for the future." I wonder whether Dan Duquette feels the same way. 

Oy, not a Connolly fan? Lol.  I think it's a ton better than the usual drivel thrown out by some of our other writers.  I don't love the idea of Cashner or any of the  SPs on the market, outside of Cobb/Darvish.  However, I am also intrigued by the idea of Jon Jay as a good OBP guy.

[oriole]

Not exciting pitching moves but well within what is realistic. I would love to see Trumbo traded but I just don't think there's a match anywhere. Would Chicago trade Shields for Trumbo? Would San Diego trade Headley for Trumbo? I doubt either one but the O's definitely aren't taking on a larger contract just to get rid of Trumbo. 

Jon Jay would be an okay move...I would prefer Granderson or Gonzalez though. 

[Tx Oriole]

19 minutes ago, interloper said:

1. Any moves at all

2. Repeat five more times

I agree with most of he says he would do. There is no way on Gods earth I'd bring back Tillman. I am so done with that man. And not sure about Jay for RF. As for DD he needs to poop or get off the pot. I am so ready for DD and Buck to be gone. 

 

[backwardsk]

19 minutes ago, oriole said:

Not exciting pitching moves but well within what is realistic. I would love to see Trumbo traded but I just don't think there's a match anywhere. Would Chicago trade Shields for Trumbo? Would San Diego trade Headley for Trumbo? I doubt either one but the O's definitely aren't taking on a larger contract just to get rid of Trumbo. 

Jon Jay would be an okay move...I would prefer Granderson or Gonzalez though. 

It would depend on what you'd get Gonzalez for.  With Hays, Mancini, Mullens, Stewart, and Santander, I'd want the RF acquisition to be on a 1 year deal.  A .374 OBP at the top of the order would be a change for the better.

 

[oriole]

4 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

It would depend on what you'd get Gonzalez for.  With Hays, Mancini, Mullens, Stewart, and Santander, I'd want the RF acquisition to be on a 1 year deal.  A .374 OBP at the top of the order would be a change for the better.

 

Yea, I don't think I'd want either on anything more than a one year deal. Granderson would probably require at least two years and Gonzalez possibly one year if he wants to pull a Nelson Cruz. 

In a perfect world Trumbo is traded and Mancini can go to DH. We could sign Granderson for a couple years and maybe see if some the OF prospects would be a starting point to get Duffy. What would be even better is if the wondrous alleged Cubs proposal is true and we could see an OF of Granderson, Almora, Jones. 

[weams]

1 hour ago, Yardball85 said:

Dan Connolly, in my opinion one of the better writers out there, with an interesting article about moves the Orioles could/should make. The first two: make a decision on Schoop and Machado - top my list as well.

 

http://www.baltimorebaseball.com/2018/01/05/six-reasonable-moves-orioles-make-month-2018-beyond/

Dan Connolly is a fine writer and a great person. 

[Aristotelian]

1 hour ago, interloper said:

1. Any moves at all

2. Repeat five more times

Haha, this has to be one of the most boring offseasons ever. The only thing we have added is negative Zach Britton.

[Yardball85]

16 minutes ago, weams said:

Dan Connolly is a fine writer and a great person. 

Yeah, always been one of my favorites.  I like Roch's wit and enjoy reading his stuff, but as far as reporting goes, Connolly usually is the best around here.

[spiritof66]

1 hour ago, weams said:

Dan Connolly is a fine writer and a great person. 

I don't doubt either of those things, but did this article advance the discussion in any way? I don't think it did.

And of course it avoided the real question: why aren't the Orioles doing any of these things, or anything else?  We know as much about Manny as we're ever likely to know, and I don't expect anyone with the Orioles to talk about a Trumbo trade, but where are they on the others? The idea that the Orioles should wait before fixing the rotation because a boatload (well, a small boat-load) of ML-ready talent might come over in a Manny trade stopped making sense a couple of weeks ago, if it ever did. 

 

[wildbillhiccup]

11 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

I don't doubt either of those things, but did this article advance the discussion in any way? I don't think it did.

And of course it avoided the real question: why aren't the Orioles doing any of these things, or anything else?  We know as much about Manny as we're ever likely to know, and I don't expect anyone with the Orioles to talk about a Trumbo trade, but where are they on the others? The idea that the Orioles should wait before fixing the rotation because a boatload (well, a small boat-load) of ML-ready talent might come over in a Manny trade stopped making sense a couple of weeks ago, if it ever did. 

 

I agree. The article really served no purpose. It felt like it was written in November and recycled on a slow news days. 

[wildcard]

Extend Schoop - Sure

Trade Manny -  only if the O's get something good in return.  Don't trade him just to trade him.  The guys they get in return will always be known as the guys that were traded for Manny.   They better have some value to the O's.

Sign Cashner - Fine, do it.

Sign Tillman - Only if its a low base with incentives.   Giving him 5-10m is enough that the O's would have to pitch him every 5 day whether he is good or not.   We saw what that looked like last year.

Sign Jon Jay -  He made 8m as a part time player last year.  Too much for me.  Spend the money on starting pitching.

Trade Trumbo for pitching - Well, find if the O's can find a decent deal.  Which I doubt.

 

 

[Yardball85]

33 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

I don't doubt either of those things, but did this article advance the discussion in any way? I don't think it did.

And of course it avoided the real question: why aren't the Orioles doing any of these things, or anything else?  We know as much about Manny as we're ever likely to know, and I don't expect anyone with the Orioles to talk about a Trumbo trade, but where are they on the others? The idea that the Orioles should wait before fixing the rotation because a boatload (well, a small boat-load) of ML-ready talent might come over in a Manny trade stopped making sense a couple of weeks ago, if it ever did. 

 

I agree with this.  Would be nice to know what was offered for Manny, heaven forbid the local media reported on that.

Just thought it was an interesting piece to read, nothing more.