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One, the number of innings he will have pitched and two, they don't want to start his major league service clock.

Good point on the innings, but I don't think service clocks count for rookies in Sept...thought I read that here once.

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Good point on the innings, but I don't think service clocks count for rookies in Sept...thought I read that here once.
That's right, September doesn't start a player's service time clock.

I still don't expect to see Tillman in Baltimore this year, but do think he will be up in 2009, along with Matusz and Arrieta.

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I don't think so. I see Arrieta and Spoone getting callups first, although I don't think any of them will actually get a shot this year.

Unfortunately for Spoone, I think a lot of pitchers passed him while he was injured.

I'm a big Chorye Spoone fan, and I think he could be a top of the rotation starter, but he is going to have to really show something the rest of the season.

I think Tillman, Arrieta, Hernandez, and Bergesen all passed him in the line of potential call-ups in the organizations eyes.

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Unfortunately for Spoone, I think a lot of pitchers passed him while he was injured.

I'm a big Chorye Spoone fan, and I think he could be a top of the rotation starter, but he is going to have to really show something the rest of the season.

I think Tillman, Arrieta, Hernandez, and Bergesen all passed him in the line of potential call-ups in the organizations eyes.

I disagree with this. I don't think getting hurt for a couple weeks is enough to make him seem like less of a prospect. He's got great control and a heavy sinker. Some of the other guys have higher upsides, but Spoone is still a great prospect. Arrieta will move the quickest, but I think Spoone could possibly be next.
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Get deeper in games consistently. Seriously, last night's 6 innings was a deep game for him this year. He throws too many pitches and doesn't last long enough in the game. He is not ready yet. He will be but not yet.

He has a .195 BAA and a ton of K's which leads me to believe that batters just aren't putting the ball in play. That will limit his innings right there.

Does anyone have numbers on how many of those K's are swinging strikes?

Also what is his BABIP? If it is high then that is even more evidence that he just isn't getting many quick outs.

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For Tillman to appear with the O's, he would need to first be added to the 40 man roster. He would not otherwise need to be added to the 40 man until after the 2010 season.

OMG Tillman is dominate!!1! Why not add him to the roster now?

1) The O's are going to need all their roster spots to protect the players they have now and the others that still must be acquired (if the team is ever to close the talent gap with the Red Sox, Yankees, and Rays).

2) Once a player is added to the 40 man roster, he can't be removed without clearing waivers. Hayden Penn was once an OMG dominate 20 year old in Bowie, too; at the end of the year he'll be out of options, just like Adam Loewen.

Feel free to cut and paste this response into the "Call Weiters up now!!1!1!" threads.

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I disagree with this. I don't think getting hurt for a couple weeks is enough to make him seem like less of a prospect. He's got great control and a heavy sinker. Some of the other guys have higher upsides, but Spoone is still a great prospect. Arrieta will move the quickest, but I think Spoone could possibly be next.

I agree with your post, but doesn't Spoone walk too many batters to be considered to have great control?

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You can't bring him up in September without putting him on the 40-man roster. There are a host of reasons why the Orioles would not want to do that before they have to. So I highly doubt he gets a call-up.

Chorye Spoone, David Hernandez, and Brad Bergesen need to be added to the 40 man roster this offseason to protect them from the Rule 5 draft.

Of course, our 40 man is a mess right now and will be at the end of the season because we only have two free agents, Kevin Millar and Jay Payton. Steve Trachsel and Luis Hernandez were already jettisoned off the roster. There also is no guarantee that the players on the current 25 man roster make it to September (Huff, Walker, Bradford, etc).

Fredy Deza and Eider Torres will get jettisoned off the roster as well. Brandon Fahey, Oscar Salazar, Scott Moore, Jim Hoey, and Jeff Fiorentino could see similar fates if there play doesnt pick up.

Fahey, Moore, and Fiorentino will be out of options for 2009 and would probably slip through waivers, at least Fahey and Moore. Salazar may not even make it to the end of the year without being DFAed. Hoey is coming off a major injury and would most likely make it through waivers. He would probably be the last one to get moved off the roster but it shows how sad our roster is when we would jettison five "offense" guys before we get to our worst pitcher not named Deza.

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I agree with your post, but doesn't Spoone walk too many batters to be considered to have great control?
3.96 BB/9 last year, so not outstanding, but good. I guess I'm basing some of my ruling there on just hot much he hates giving up walks. If you read his quotes after games, he just rips himself a new one whenever a walk comes around to score of if he walks more than one.

I guess I'm assuming he'll be able to channel some of that hatred of walks into preventing them a bit more than he has so far.

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