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What kind of season do you expect from Jonathan Schoop?


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Jonathan Schoop had a breakout season last year, posting career highs in BA (.293), OBP (.338), SLG (.503), OPS (.841), HR (32) and RBI (105) and walks (35).    He was consistent for most of the season, but like practically everyone else on the team, had a miserable September (.590 OPS) that kept his final numbers from being even more spectacular.   

Schoop will play all of 2018 at age 26.   What do you think we see from him?    Does he maintain his 2017 level?     Does he take even another step forward?    Or does he regress?

I’m fairly optimistic.    I think the main reason Schoop progressed in 2017 was he cut back on swinging at bad pitches, lowering his O-Swing% from 43% in 2016 to 37.1% in 2017.    While that’s excellent improvement, he was better on that score in the first half than in the second half.   There’s two ways to look at that: (1) he’s at risk of falling back into his old bad habits, or (2) there’s room for even more improvement.   

Overall, I think Schoop is capable of equaling or exceeding his 2017 numbers.    

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Hoping last year was part of a progression and not a peak.  I don’t know whether 2017 is part of a new normal or if he is likely to regress towards his career averages.

So, I guess my answer is “I don’t know.”

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6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Jonathan Schoop had a breakout season last year, posting career highs in BA (.293), OBP (.338), SLG (.503), OPS (.841), HR (32) and RBI (105) and walks (35).    He was consistent for most of the season, but like practically everyone else on the team, had a miserable September (.590 OPS) that kept his final numbers from being even more spectacular.   

Schoop will play all of 2018 at age 26.   What do you think we see from him?    Does he maintain his 2017 level?     Does he take even another step forward?    Or does he regress?

I’m fairly optimistic.    I think the main reason Schoop progressed in 2017 was he cut back on swinging at bad pitches, lowering his O-Swing% from 43% in 2016 to 37.1% in 2017.    While that’s excellent improvement, he was better on that score in the first half than in the second half.   There’s two ways to look at that: (1) he’s at risk of falling back into his old bad habits, or (2) there’s room for even more improvement.   

Overall, I think Schoop is capable of equaling or exceeding his 2017 numbers.    

I think he will be about the same as he was in 2017.

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I expect Schoop to be a Blessing in Disguise. ll ¬¬

 

Really, I expect Schoop to have  a few less home runs than last season (between 25 and 30) while maintaining (or slightly increasing) the respectable .338 OBP that he had.

 

Defensively I expect him to have an overall slight decrease in errors, as he was 2nd in the American League last year with 15 ........ although he also led the American League in Double Plays Turned (132), Putouts (329), Assists (446), and Range (4.87.) He was somewhat the opposite of Rich Dauer last year, who didn't cover a lot of ground, but rarely made errors on the balls that he got to.

 

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5 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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I expect Schoop to be a Blessing in Disguise. ll ¬¬

 

Really, I expect Schoop to have  a few less home runs than last season (between 25 and 30) while maintaining (or slightly increasing) the respectable .338 OBP that he had.

 

Defensively I expect him to have an overall slight decrease in errors, as he was 2nd in the American League last year with 15 ........ although he also led the American League in Double Plays Turned (132), Putouts (329), Assists (446), and Range (4.87.) He was somewhat the opposite of Rich Dauer last year, who didn't cover a lot of ground, but rarely made an error on the balls that he got to.

 

I don’t think Schoop covered as much ground as his “range factor” implies.    Don’t forget we had 4 of 5 RH rotation, which leads to seeing more LH hitters, hence more balls hit to the RH side of the field.    And, we have a low K pitching staff, so more balls in play.

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I am hoping for more of the same. His season last year was best case scenario for me and hopefully he can stretch that over a few seasons. He seems to keep getting better every year though so maybe next year he will be in the MVP talks :D

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12 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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I expect Schoop to be a Blessing in Disguise. ll ¬¬

 

Really, I expect Schoop to have  a few less home runs than last season (between 25 and 30) while maintaining (or slightly increasing) the respectable .338 OBP that he had.

 

Defensively I expect him to have an overall slight decrease in errors, as he was 2nd in the American League last year with 15 ........ although he also led the American League in Double Plays Turned (132), Putouts (329), Assists (446), and Range (4.87.) He was somewhat the opposite of Rich Dauer last year, who didn't cover a lot of ground, but rarely made errors on the balls that he got to.

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

 

I dont think that Schoop covered as much ground as his Range Factor implies. Don’t forget we had 4 of 5 right-handed pitchers in the starting rotation, which leads to seeing more left-handed hitters, hence more balls hit to the right side of the field. And, we have a low K pitching staff, so more balls in play.

 

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OK thanks, Frank.

I thought that he covered a pretty good amount of ground from my eye test (I watched about 140-145 Orioles games last season), but the factors that you pointed out should be taken into consideration also.

 

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22 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

I think Jonathan will be the All Star second baseman and will win his first AL MVP.    No pressure there, buddy!  

Hard to win an MVP on a last place team.

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1 hour ago, tntoriole said:

I think Jonathan will be the All Star second baseman and will win his first AL MVP.    No pressure there, buddy!  

Judging by your expectations for the players on the team, how many wins do you project? 120?

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10 minutes ago, Babypowder said:

Judging by your expectations for the players on the team, how many wins do you project? 120?

It makes the winter go faster when I wear orange colored glasses.   lol. 

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7 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Hard to win an MVP on a last place team.

Hard, yes, but not impossible.  :)

Ernie Banks won the 1958 NL MVP playing for the 72-82 Cubs.  And again in 1959 for the 74-80 Cubs.  Let's play two!

Steve Carlton won the 1972 NL Cy Young Award playing for the 59-97 Phillies.  Only 32 games were won by a Phillies pitcher other than Carlton that year.

Paul Hornung won the 1956 Heisman Trophy playing for the 2-8 Notre Dame Fighting Irish.

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