One reason why the Orioles have not improved their rotation

[Diehard_O's_Fan]

According to Roch at masnsports.com, "An issue for the Orioles as they try to fill out their rotation has been the poor medicals on some of the starters that they’re considering, according to a source".

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2018/01/thoughts-on-drury-moustakas-rotation-issues-and-more.html

[DirtyBird]

Garbage pitchers are garbage.

[esmd]

Wonder if they checked medicals on Arrietta or Cobb?  I mean seriously, if you're really going to keep Manny and let him walk as a FA, why not REALLY go all in and sign those guys and REALLY try and win a WS?  You can always trade those guys to reduce payroll after the season if you need to go that direction.  But for one year, one friggin year, put all your chips in and go for it.  But this one foot in, one foot out, hokey pokey BS is just another tiresome recipe for 4th place.  SMDH.

[wildcard]

1 minute ago, esmd said:

Wonder if they checked medicals on Arrietta or Cobb?  I mean seriously, if you're really going to keep Manny and let him walk as a FA, why not REALLY go all in and sign those guys and REALLY try and win a WS?  You can always trade those guys to reduce payroll after the season if you need to go that direction.  But for one year, one friggin year, put all your chips in and go for it.  But this one foot in, one foot out, hokey pokey BS is just another tiresome recipe for 4th place.  SMDH.

So far its no feet in.

[esmd]

1 minute ago, wildcard said:

So far its no feet in.

True story.  Though I expect by ST we'll have some crappy retread Ubaldo imitator in the rotation.  Probably Cashner and/or Lynn, who will each probably get lit up like a Christmas tree.

[wildbillhiccup]

4 minutes ago, esmd said:

True story.  Though I expect by ST we'll have some crappy retread Ubaldo imitator in the rotation.  Probably Cashner and/or Lynn, who will each probably get lit up like a Christmas tree.

Grouping Lynn in with Cashner is ridiculous. He's every bit as good as Cobb and Arrieta. The numbers don't lie...

YEAR - ERA

2011 - 3.12

2012 - 3.78

2013 - 3.97

2014 - 2.74

2015 - 3.03

2017 - 2.43

[Aristotelian]

Man, I have to say the Orioles are so shady for leaking this stuff. 

[Il BuonO]

1 hour ago, esmd said:

Wonder if they checked medicals on Arrietta or Cobb?  I mean seriously, if you're really going to keep Manny and let him walk as a FA, why not REALLY go all in and sign those guys and REALLY try and win a WS?  You can always trade those guys to reduce payroll after the season if you need to go that direction.  But for one year, one friggin year, put all your chips in and go for it.  But this one foot in, one foot out, hokey pokey BS is just another tiresome recipe for 4th place.  SMDH.

I can’t imagine it happening, but....from your lips to God’s ears.

[Il BuonO]

1 hour ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Grouping Lynn in with Cashner is ridiculous. He's every bit as good as Cobb and Arrieta. The numbers don't lie...

YEAR - ERA

2011 - 3.12

2012 - 3.78

2013 - 3.97

2014 - 2.74

2015 - 3.03

2017 - 2.43

2017 ERA was 3.43

Don’t think he or Cobb are as good as Arrieta.

[Il BuonO]

Arrieta, 31, is still under 1,200 career IP. In the past four seasons, he has a 2.67 ERA and 1.028 WHIP. He had a 2.26 ERA in his last 14 games after a rough start last season.

[Aristotelian]

1 hour ago, esmd said:

Wonder if they checked medicals on Arrietta or Cobb?  I mean seriously, if you're really going to keep Manny and let him walk as a FA, why not REALLY go all in and sign those guys and REALLY try and win a WS?  You can always trade those guys to reduce payroll after the season if you need to go that direction.  But for one year, one friggin year, put all your chips in and go for it.  But this one foot in, one foot out, hokey pokey BS is just another tiresome recipe for 4th place.  SMDH.

Do you really think this is the year to do that?

[wildbillhiccup]

17 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

2017 ERA was 3.43

Don’t think he or Cobb are as good as Arrieta.

It was. Honest mistake / typo. 

Arrieta isn't the same pitcher he was the first two seasons with the Cubs. I think present day Arrieta is much closer to Cobb and Lynn in terms of value. 

[Dark Helmet]

2 hours ago, esmd said:

True story.  Though I expect by ST we'll have some crappy retread Ubaldo imitator in the rotation.  Probably Cashner and/or Lynn, who will each probably get lit up like a Christmas tree.

Ubaldo imitators? The agent for the real Ubaldo is probably talking to DD as we speak.

[Dark Helmet]

34 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

Arrieta, 31, is still under 1,200 career IP. In the past four seasons, he has a 2.67 ERA and 1.028 WHIP. He had a 2.26 ERA in his last 14 games after a rough start last season.

If Jake could be had for a 4 year deal then Yes. Anything more No. Too bad the Orioles won' even go 4 years on a SO. 1/100m for Arietta? Lol

[theocean]

There's no way Arrietta wants to come back here. Darvish is too expensive. I like Cobb and Lynn - but I could easily see their ERAs going over 4.00 next year. It is silly to give a ton of money to a pitcher over 30 that has had Tommy-John surgery with stats that pointing in the wrong direction.

 There's a reason none of these guys have been signed yet. Clubs are skeptical of them.