Possible trade with Yankees that doesn’t involved Manny

[millertime]

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about what to believe and what not to believe about Angelos potentially nixing a trade that would send Manny to New York.  I honestly don’t know what to believe.  My personal opinion is you trade him to whatever team offers the best package for him but I certainly wouldn’t put it past Angelos to step in and nix a trade that would send him to the Bronx.

That being said,the Yankees have someone that I believe they’d at least consider trading if they get an attractive offer (that wouldn’t include Manny).  That player is Clint Frazier.  I know, I know...we need PITCHING.  No arguments from me on that HOWEVER the Yankees OF is LOADED right now so perhaps they’d be willing to trade him.  This is a guy who, not long ago, was being compared to Trout and again, just my personal opinion, had only just begun to tap into his potential.  I have no idea what the Yankees would want in return but shouldn’t we at least inquire???  I pay a TON of attention to prospects and I believe Frazier is the real deal so even though we NEED pitching, what’s the harm in asking what New York would want for him?

[Beef Supreme]

Hunter Harvey. And Reyes.

[Beef Supreme]

Just now, Beef Supreme said:

Hunter Harvey. And Reyes.

which sorta goes against the "Orioles Need Pitching" mantra.

[Lucky_13]

Think they'd trade him for Brach?

 

[El Gordo]

1 hour ago, millertime said:

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about what to believe and what not to believe about Angelos potentially nixing a trade that would send Manny to New York.  I honestly don’t know what to believe.  My personal opinion is you trade him to whatever team offers the best package for him but I certainly wouldn’t put it past Angelos to step in and nix a trade that would send him to the Bronx.

That being said,the Yankees have someone that I believe they’d at least consider trading if they get an attractive offer (that wouldn’t include Manny).  That player is Clint Frazier.  I know, I know...we need PITCHING.  No arguments from me on that HOWEVER the Yankees OF is LOADED right now so perhaps they’d be willing to trade him.  This is a guy who, not long ago, was being compared to Trout and again, just my personal opinion, had only just begun to tap into his potential.  I have no idea what the Yankees would want in return but shouldn’t we at least inquire???  I pay a TON of attention to prospects and I believe Frazier is the real deal so even though we NEED pitching, what’s the harm in asking what New York would want for him?

Why do we need another OF?

[Beef Supreme]

22 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

Think they'd trade him for Brach?

 

I just read that Bleier was the fifth best lefty reliever in 2017, so they'd probably trade Frazier for him.

[millertime]

1 hour ago, El Gordo said:

Why do we need another OF?

Why not?  Again, I pay close attention to all teams prospects and my personal opinion is that Clint Frazier is going to be a star sooner than later.  Not saying you have to believe that but depending on what the Yanks want for him, why not at least explore the option?  They say you can never have too much pitching but can’t that honestly be said about every position?  I’ve read more than one scouting report where Frazier has drawn Mike Trout comparisons.  I’m not gullible enough to believe he WILL become Trout but he’s obviously coveted by other teams and given the fact that the Yankees have a logjam in the OF, they might be willing to trade him.

[El Gordo]

16 minutes ago, millertime said:

Why not?  Again, I pay close attention to all teams prospects and my personal opinion is that Clint Frazier is going to be a star sooner than later.  Not saying you have to believe that but depending on what the Yanks want for him, why not at least explore the option?  They say you can never have too much pitching but can’t that honestly be said about every position?  I’ve read more than one scouting report where Frazier has drawn Mike Trout comparisons.  I’m not gullible enough to believe he WILL become Trout but he’s obviously coveted by other teams and given the fact that the Yankees have a logjam in the OF, they might be willing to trade him.

Hays, Mancini, Mountcastle, Mullins, Stewart, Santander. are all very  promising.  How does he rate with them? Is he that much more promising? We need pitching.

[Tryptamine]

11 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Hays, Mancini, Mountcastle, Mullins, Stewart, Santander. are all very  promising.  How does he rate with them? Is he that much more promising? We need pitching.

Yes his value is much higher than any of them and outside of maybe Hays, who he still exceeds in value. Brach isn't enough and with them set in the OF and looking to add Manny next year I don't think they'd be interested in any of the aforementioned.

[millertime]

11 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Hays, Mancini, Mountcastle, Mullins, Stewart, Santander. are all very  promising.  How does he rate with them? Is he that much more promising? We need pitching.

Did you miss the part where I said I understand we need pitching?  I even bolded the word “NEEDED”.  My point is a good GM “should” explore any and all trade options if it improves the team.  Would I PREFER they trade for pitching?  Absolutely but would I look into trying to get a highly touted OF prospect if I didn’t have to overpay for him?  Absolutely as well.  My “opinion” (once again I know I have to stress that on this board) is that Frazier is better (or will be better) than any OFer on our roster.  Read up on his scouting report if you have the time.  To suggest however that we shouldn’t look into trading for someone like him simply because we need pitching doesn’t make sense to me.  Hypothetically (and this is VERY hypothetical) if the Astros wanted to trade George Springer to us, should we simply answer the phone and say “Sorry...we’re only interested in trading for a pitcher”?

[Luke-OH]

20 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

Yes his value is much higher than any of them and outside of maybe Hays, who he still exceeds in value. Brach isn't enough and with them set in the OF and looking to add Manny next year I don't think they'd be interested in any of the aforementioned.

I agree Brach isn’t nearly enough, and that he’s a better prospect than any non-Hays OF Prospect, but is he really more valuable than Hays? 

They are similar players, but Hays is the better defender, and he has a better swing, and better bat control.  Frazier does have the advantage in bat speed by a significant margin, but that hasn’t stopped Hays from superior performance at each minor league stop.

 

[Frobby]

7 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

I just read that Bleier was the fifth best lefty reliever in 2017, so they'd probably trade Frazier for him.

The Yankee bullpen threatens to be historically good.    Anyone who thinks Bleier is the 5th best lefty reliever is kidding themselves.   He had a good ERA in 2017 (1.99).    So did Hart in 2016 (0.49).

[Tx Oriole]

5 hours ago, millertime said:

Did you miss the part where I said I understand we need pitching?  I even bolded the word “NEEDED”.  My point is a good GM “should” explore any and all trade options if it improves the team.  Would I PREFER they trade for pitching?  Absolutely but would I look into trying to get a highly touted OF prospect if I didn’t have to overpay for him?  Absolutely as well.  My “opinion” (once again I know I have to stress that on this board) is that Frazier is better (or will be better) than any OFer on our roster.  Read up on his scouting report if you have the time.  To suggest however that we shouldn’t look into trading for someone like him simply because we need pitching doesn’t make sense to me.  Hypothetically (and this is VERY hypothetical) if the Astros wanted to trade George Springer to us, should we simply answer the phone and say “Sorry...we’re only interested in trading for a pitcher”?

I what them to trade for the best player they can get for Manny. It hasn't got to be a pitcher. 

[Thats Baseball]

The highest Frazier has hit at AA or above is .276 with 13 HR. We have guys doing that already with better defensive skills.

[theobird]

I would not trade Hays for him, so no I have no interest in a deal for Frazier. We havea whole stable of good looking young outfielders. The guy on the Yankee's that I would like to have is Miguel Andujar. But he isn't coming to Baltimore unless its in a Manny trade. I would trade Manny for Andujar and Chance Adams though. Thats two high ceiling kids and one is a Pitcher.