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Starting Rotation

  1. ???
  2. ???
  3. Gausman
  4. Bundy
  5. Cashner

The best thing about this deal is that he can be moved to the pen if he sucks as a starter or is displaced by one of the younger guys who starts the season in the bullpen. An $8mm middle reliever is not unheard of these days. I'm fine with him pitching the 6th or 7th inning.

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8 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

Starting Rotation

  1. ???
  2. ???
  3. Gausman
  4. Bundy
  5. Cashner

The best thing about this deal is that he can be moved to the pen if he sucks as a starter or is displaced by one of the younger guys who starts the season in the bullpen. An $8mm middle reliever is not unheard of these days. I'm fine with him pitching the 6th or 7th inning.

Who needs starters?  I am kinda excited about this season. Will throwing a revolving door of 3 inning dudes and AAAA relievers at the wall halfway stick?

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If he eats innings and keeps his ERA around or under 5 this could be a good deal. I'm not sure he can do that.  Not in the AL East. 

Does anyone know why his K's were down significantly last year?  Increase used of two-seamer, Inducing more weak contact?  I just got here and 26 pages is too many to sort through, so I apologize if this has been addressed. 

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3 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

If he eats innings and keeps his ERA around or under 5 this could be a good deal. I'm not sure he can do that.  Not in the AL East. 

Does anyone know why his K's were down significantly last year?  Increase used of two-seamer, Inducing more weak contact?  I just got here and 26 pages is too many to sort through, so I apologize if this has been addressed. 

This is what worries me, Low K rate (SO9 4.6) and an ERA of 3.40 that does not look sustainable.  

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7 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

If he eats innings and keeps his ERA around or under 5 this could be a good deal. I'm not sure he can do that.  Not in the AL East. 

Does anyone know why his K's were down significantly last year?  Increase used of two-seamer, Inducing more weak contact?  I just got here and 26 pages is too many to sort through, so I apologize if this has been addressed. 

His slider stopped missing bats.  On the bright side his slider also induced weaker contact than in years prior.

He also switched his 4 seam and 2 seam usage.

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Just now, Can_of_corn said:

His slider stopped missing bats.  On the bright side his slider also induced weaker contact than in years prior.

He also switched his 4 seam and 2 seam usage.

This.

He turned the slider into a cutter.  In 2016 his slider got 16.5% whiffs. In 2017 he didn't throw a "slider", he threw a cutter that was harder, had different movement and only got 9.8% whiffs.

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Any good reason we weren't in on Jaime Garcia (1/10 to the Blue Jays)?  Garcia has a better track record and is left handed.  

Jhoulys Chacin went for 2/15.5 to Milwaukee.  I like him better than Cashner as well. 

I just can't get too excited about a guy with a declining k rate and a year removed from putting up a 5.25 ERA in a pitchers park.  

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13 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

This.

He turned the slider into a cutter.  In 2016 his slider got 16.5% whiffs. In 2017 he didn't throw a "slider", he threw a cutter that was harder, had different movement and only got 9.8% whiffs.

I guess an optimist would say he transformed himself from a thrower into a pitcher.

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14 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

This.

He turned the slider into a cutter.  In 2016 his slider got 16.5% whiffs. In 2017 he didn't throw a "slider", he threw a cutter that was harder, had different movement and only got 9.8% whiffs.

Sliders do eat elbow don't they?

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