Albert Belle arrested (again)

[Tx Oriole]

1 minute ago, Dark Helmet said:

Maybe he does have a sickness. But sometimes there is no other reason than they are just a bad person. 

Maybe so.

[Beef Supreme]

5 hours ago, Ohfan67 said:

Does felony stalking, threatening to kill his wife, etc., move Belle into the really bad category? He didn't just throw a baseball at a fan. That's not even remotely close to his low point(s). p.s. edited to remove spousal abuse: I don't think he was charged with this.

I found no mention of threatening to kill or harm his wife. Can you provide a link?

[Ohfan67]

8 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

I found no mention of threatening to kill or harm his wife. Can you provide a link?

It was in several of the felony stalking articles. 

[Ohfan67]

Example http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/local/the_valley/belle-argues-to-get-out-of-jail/article_fbe7ba9f-a20c-5392-a509-c2851c4e9e59.html

[Beef Supreme]

40 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

Example http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/local/the_valley/belle-argues-to-get-out-of-jail/article_fbe7ba9f-a20c-5392-a509-c2851c4e9e59.html

I see nothing that backs the claim of violence or threats by Albert against his wife, Melissa Belle. Melissa claimed in court that it was she who made the calls to the woman, not Albert.
I researched this before posting because I had found nothing suggesting any form of spousal abuse. Just three happy children who like to play with their dad.

[mdbdotcom]

Is this a good time to bring up a former Oriole who did things that actually harmed other people and their families?

https://www.courthousenews.com/ballplayer-admits-he-hung-a-friend-out-to-dry/ 

[Ohfan67]

1 hour ago, Beef Supreme said:

I see nothing that backs the claim of violence or threats by Albert against his wife, Melissa Belle. Melissa claimed in court that it was she who made the calls to the woman, not Albert.
I researched this before posting because I had found nothing suggesting any form of spousal abuse. Just three happy children who like to play with their dad.

Excuse me, they were threats to kill his ex-girlfriend and his wife claimed she made the calls.  It's complicated because the girlfriend may have been his regular paid escort. The story I linked was associated with the case where he placed a GPS tracking device on the girlfriends car. The linked story suggested that he tracked the girlfriend while he was on his honeymoon with his wife. It's very sordid and very hard to follow. But the victim did state that Belle threatened to kill her and it was part of his felony stalking case. I believe calls that are alluded to in that story came after the woman already had a restraining order against Belle, hence the felony nature of the stalking case. 

 

I did not mean to misidentify the victim, but regardless if it was his wife, girlfriend, or call girl, Albert Belle is a reprehensible human being who was nasty to many, many people. That has been well documented and you can easily find examples in your research. I hated that he ever donned an Orioles uniform. Not trying to be snarky, but are you a personal fan of Albert Belle? Do you think he is a misunderstood, troubled soul and we are being too hard on him? By the way, Albert Belle's behavior on the field and in the locker room was enough to make me not want him to be an Oriole. The crazy and mean things he did away from the ballpark just cemented my dislike of him and my dismay that the Orioles signed him.  

[Beef Supreme]

The word "felony" doesn't exponentially make worse the "non-threatening" phone calls that are the basis of the violation of the court order. Belle may not be a goody-2-shoes but he is not in the vile category that Clemens and Cobb occupy, as well as numerous other athletes e.g. Pistorius and so many wife-beaters over time that MLB could out-man the active military of The Bahamas.

[Ohfan67]

47 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

The word "felony" doesn't exponentially make worse the "non-threatening" phone calls that are the basis of the violation of the court order. Belle may not be a goody-2-shoes but he is not in the vile category that Clemens and Cobb occupy, as well as numerous other athletes e.g. Pistorius and so many wife-beaters over time that MLB could out-man the active military of The Bahamas.

You think there were no threats associated with the first court order? You totally believe that his wife made the calls and that there were no threats associated with the second set of calls? You don't think that sticking a GPS tracing device on a woman's car would be threatening or the type of thing that a guy that threatens women would do? You seem to believe allegations against Clemens, but not Belle. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I don't get how you seem willing to believe bad things about Clemens, but not about Belle. And again I'm not trying to say he worse than somebody else. Belle has done a lot of sucky things to a lot of people. Plain and simple. 

[Beef Supreme]

Pedophiles and wife-beaters are really bad people. Clemens is a pedophile but he is not the only one. Belle's misdeeds fall far short of those heinous crimes. By comparison, his teammate, Scott Erickson, looks like a "really bad guy," compared to the mistrustful, intelligent and often times angry Belle.

Sad but true: threats mean nothing to the cops and the legal system. They can be considered harassment if one can document a continuing pattern, as Ms. Williams convinced the court. You might be as shocked as I was at learning the types of threats people can make towards each other and be considered entirely lawful.