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The O's desperately needed starters after last season. Every Orioles fan waited to see who we would sign. So after waiting, we got Cashner. Then after more waiting, all the way to the last minute...We got Cobb, simply because no one else wanted him. 

How's that working out halfway through the season? 

If pitching is important, starting pitching is very important...

But we blew it...

 

 

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1 minute ago, Natty said:

The O's desperately needed starters after last season. Every Orioles fan waited to see who we would sign. So after waiting, we got Cashner. Then after more waiting, all the way to the last minute...We got Cobb, simply because no one else wanted him. 

How's that working out halfway through the season? 

If pitching is important, starting pitching is very important...

But we blew it...

 

 

This is true but it's far from the biggest problem this team's got.

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4 minutes ago, Natty said:

The O's desperately needed starters after last season. Every Orioles fan waited to see who we would sign. So after waiting, we got Cashner. Then after more waiting, all the way to the last minute...We got Cobb, simply because no one else wanted him. 

How's that working out halfway through the season? 

If pitching is important, starting pitching is very important...

But we blew it...

 

 

How would  all the O's pitchers do with a better defense behind them?

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Hindsite is always 20/20.  I am not afraid to say the signing of these two made me pretty optimistic.  Not print the playoff tickets optimistic.  Im not afraid to say that.


So many things piling up to make this team bad.  

 

But to answer your post, it aint working, but I dont think its because we signed Cashner and Cobb.

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14 minutes ago, Natty said:

 

 

The O's desperately needed starters after last season. Every Orioles fan waited to see who we would sign. So after waiting, we got Cashner. Then after more waiting, all the way to the last minute...We got Cobb, simply because no one else wanted him. 

How's that working out halfway through the season? 

If pitching is important, starting pitching is very important...

But we blew it ........

 

 

12 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

 

This is true, but it's far from the biggest problem this team's got.

 

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Correct.

 

The Orioles are currently 7th (out of 30 teams) in the Major Leagues in Quality Starts.

https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/team-stats?season=2018&category=PITCHING&sort=6&time=0

 

In 2017, the Orioles were tied for 27th (out of 30 teams) in Quality Starts.

https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/team-stats?season=2017&category=PITCHING&sort=6&time=0

 

 

In fact, the Orioles' starting pitching at-large IS THE ONLY SEGMENT OF THE TEAM which resembles a competitive Major League team ........ the offense is horrible, the defense is bad, and the previously very reliable bullpen (2012-2017) stinks. The starting pitching is the least of the 2018 Orioles' problems.

 

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Cashner’s been about as expected, whereas Cobb has been a big disappointment.    I’m still not going to judge Cobb’s four year deal based on how he does in the first year, no matter how disappointing.     

At the end of the day, these guys aren’t really the big problem.   If we were hitting remotely like we have the last 6+ years, we’d have a credible team.    The offense doesn’t give us a chance to win most days.  

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Just now, Frobby said:

Cashner’s been about as expected, whereas Cobb has been a big disappointment.    I’m still not going to judge Cobb’s four year deal based on how he does in the first year, no matter how disappointing.     

At the end of the day, these guys aren’t really the big problem.   If we were hitting remotely like we have the last 6+ years, we’d have a credible team.    The offense doesn’t give us a chance to win most days.  

Or if the defense was even league average.

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1 minute ago, webbrick2010 said:

Its the defense.

We have an entire roster of DH's

It's just plain silly that any FO put together this roster.

Not a single plus defender on the roster and perhaps not a single plus defender in the entire organization.

That's nonsense. 

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7 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Its the defense.

We have an entire roster of DH's

It's just plain silly that any FO put together this roster.

Not a single plus defender on the roster and perhaps not a single plus defender in the entire organization.

It’s not only one thing.    Our offense is more runs below average than the defense is, by available measures.   By a lot.   But both are important.    And the pitching would be a bit below average even if the defense were average.   When you’re on pace to win 45 games, there’s more than one problem.    

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20 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Its the defense.

We have an entire roster of DH's

It's just plain silly that any FO put together this roster.

Not a single plus defender on the roster and perhaps not a single plus defender in the entire organization.

That's a strong NO.

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