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Mariners starter Erik Bedard will have his next start pushed back a couple of days after experiencing tightness in his throwing shoulder, and there is a chance the Seattle left-hander might not throw again until after the all-star break.

Meanwhile, the Mariners could get Felix Hernandez back in the rotation either Thursday or Friday, manager Jim Riggleman said before Sunday's series finale against Detroit.

Bedard, of Navan, Ont., complained of tightness in his left shoulder after his start on Friday, when he went five innings and gave up one run, and left after throwing 99 pitches. Riggleman said the decision to pull Bedard was his, not the pitcher's, although Bedard has received criticism of late for not throwing more than 100 pitches in his last six starts.

"He's caught a lot of grief for coming out of games, but my only concern was about his hip and his back. But the other day, after the game he told the trainer his shoulder was tight," Riggleman said.

"He's been checked out and everything looks good. He felt better (Saturday), but he's going to be pushed back a little bit."

Thank goodness we moved Bedard when we did. His value has to be down about 50% after all the maladies he's suffered this year and his inability to get deep into games.

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A real man would lie to his coaching staff until after he suffered a career-threatening injury, give up 11 runs in back-to-back starts gutting his way through the pain, and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to the DL.

That's certainly what a real ACE would do! :rofl:

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I don't know why people have to make sarcastic remarks everytime Bedard is a topic.

Bedard is often a very good pitcher when he pitches. But he's not usually able to rack up the innings over a season.

I just mentioned in another thread how impressive it was that Greg Maddux is still able to pitch 200+ innings almost every year, even though he's now 42 years old. Since he turned 35, his lowest IP in a season is 198. Now of course, Maddux is a first ballot HOFer and isn't exactly a fair comp. But Maddux isn't usually mentioned as a guy who will go out year after year and be in (or near) the top 10 in IP, even though he is. He's averaged 231 IP per season over a 20 year span from 1988 to 2007. Even this season, he's logged 107 innings thus far.

Bedard has logged the following number of innings since he's become a fulltime starter:

2004 137.1

2005 141.2

2006 196.1

2007 182.0

Obviously, Bedard has never logged 200 innings in a season, although he came close in 2006. This season, he's logged 81.0 innings thus far.

39 year old Mike Mussina, who's been considered a 6 inning pitcher recently, has logged more innings in 3 of those 4 seasons and has logged more innings this season as well. (He's accumulated 56 more innings than Bedard over that time frame.)

As Orioles fans who see our teams often tank in the 2nd half of the season as pitchers get hurt and the bullpen wilts, we should appreciate the value of a pitcher who can be depended upon to rack up the innings over the course of a season.

Bedard has not proven to be one of those types over his career. And he hasn't been that type of pitcher this year either.

Frobby's right.

We traded Bedard when his value appeared to be very high, and received a very nice package of players in return. Last offseason, some people in MLB even speculated that they might prefer Bedard over Santana even thought Santana had the much better resume. The reasoning was that they were the same age and Bedard has less wear and tear on his arm, while often pitching brilliantly when he was healthy in 2007. Just a few months later, who would realistically prefer Bedard over Santana?

If Seattle decides to shop Bedard, I doubt they receive anything close to what they gave us for him.

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