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1 hour ago, Morgan423 said:

Milwaukee partially receiving some of that Geraldo Parra karma back.

Schoop will play everyday next year... they just have a glut of infielders at the moment.  Moustakas will most likely move on and Shaw will move back to 3B.  If Schoop begins to lose playing time to the likes of Hernan Perez, that's will I'll worry for him.

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12 minutes ago, orioles119 said:

Schoop will play everyday next year... they just have a glut of infielders at the moment.  Moustakas will most likely move on and Shaw will move back to 3B.  If Schoop begins to lose playing time to the likes of Hernan Perez, that's will I'll worry for him.

Still a head scratcher that they would give up two decent prospects and versatile major leaguer for a guy they didn't plan on playing everyday. 

Villar at least offers the ability to pinch run and is more proven defensively at SS.  

The Brewers are in a pennant race, so this deal had to be made with eyes on this year. The trade makes little sense for them unless they were planning on sticking Schoop at SS, but then quickly realized he wasn't going to hack it there. 

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8 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Comparing the Gausman trade to any other SP traded isn’t an Apples to Apples comparison. We complicated(screwed up) the deal by including O’day and his $10 million salary. 

We all new that Gausman would have better results just going to the NL. See Wade Miley. We’d all feel better about that trade if we had another Dillon Tate/Luis Ortiz type in the minors. But we chose $10 million over a piece like that. Let’s look at the other trades though,

Machado- Looks good/great for us so far. Kremer is a stud. Diaz is a top 100 player. The rest of the package looks solid. 

Britton- Great for us. We traded him at the exact right time this year. We got two potential SP and a reliever. 

Brach- He just needed a change of scenery, the NL, stop being a closer, and to get away from trade talks. Not much we could do there. 

Schoop- Great for us so far. There is an argument to be made that. Villar is the better player right now. Plus Carmona and Ortiz. 

Gausman- Disaster. Haha. Looks like the main thinking was to get rid of O’day. Not the best way a rebuilding team should operate. The one move that ownership messed up. Could look pretty even if we sign Diaz with the Money saved. I don’t see that happening. 

Villar is a good player. People forget that just in 2016 he was amazing. 62 stolen bases, .285/.369/.826. He had a rough year in 2017 - but he's been a solid performer throughout his career and is only 27.

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1 hour ago, theocean said:

Villar is a good player. People forget that just in 2016 he was amazing. 62 stolen bases, .285/.369/.826. He had a rough year in 2017 - but he's been a solid performer throughout his career and is only 27.

I'm sure glad he's on the team. 

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13 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

I'm sure glad he's on the team. 

He is a piece with future value. In all likelihood, his arbitration years will be up before this team is ready to compete again, so hopefully he has a good 2019 and becomes a piece we can trade for even more future assets.

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12 hours ago, FlipTheBird said:

He is a piece with future value. In all likelihood, his arbitration years will be up before this team is ready to compete again, so hopefully he has a good 2019 and becomes a piece we can trade for even more future assets.

In other words, we should Flip the Bird?

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12 hours ago, FlipTheBird said:

He is a piece with future value. In all likelihood, his arbitration years will be up before this team is ready to compete again, so hopefully he has a good 2019 and becomes a piece we can trade for even more future assets.

Heck, we could move him this off-season if somebody needs a 2+ WAR middle infielder. I would not hang up the phone on anyone who asks.

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7 hours ago, Going Underground said:

Schoop got pinch hit for in the  eighth today .They are using him as a sort of platoon player. Why trade for him?

Which would mean they don't believe in his career reverse split stats, which are pretty clear (.760 vs. .699).

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7 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think they are in a tight enough race for the WC that they don't feel like they can just let him play full time until he busts out of his slump.

He's no longer in a slump: .346 BA (OPS 1.145!) with 3 homers in his last 29 ABs before yesterday's game.

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5 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

Which begs the question how do you "bust out of a slump" while riding the pine?

He's busted out. They're just choosing to ignore his pronounced reverse split, which holds in both his career and 2018 stats.

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39 minutes ago, bpilktree67 said:

They got him to play Ss but traded away their 2b to get him.  I wonder if they preferred sending Arcia in the trade but we wanted Villar or vise versa.  

3rd Base: Moustakas, Shaw

SS: Arcia, Schoop

2nd Base: Schoop, Shaw

Thus, no need for Villar, he hadn't played much this season because of injury, and there are rumors Counsell wasn't happy with him.

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