Orioles Spend 250k of their International Money ( Report that it was $750k)

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Zimmermann Dominates In 3-1 Baysox Debut

BOWIE, Md. – LHP Bruce Zimmermann held the Hartford Yard Goats to a run over five innings to help the Bowie Baysox sweep a rain-shortened series with a 3-1 win in six innings in front of 6,530 at Dunkin’ Donuts Park Sunday evening.

 

In his first start since July 27 with Double-A the Double-A Mississippi Braves, the lefty made his first start as a member of the Baltimore Orioles farm system. After allowing a first-inning run, Zimmermann scattered three hits over the final four innings, striking out five Yard Goats (53-63).

 

Zimmermann evaded a couple potential Hartford threats through the middle innings of the scheduled doubleheader’s first game. After a fielding error placed a runner on second base with one out in the third inning, the native Marylander needed seven pitches to strike Dom Nunez out swinging and Roberto Ramos to fly out to Ryan McKenna in center field. Hartford led off the fourth inning with a pair of singles, but Zimmermann retired Brian Mundell, Brandon Bednar and Nelson Molina in order to prevent any further offensive threats. Ramos would step into the box as the tying run in the fifth inning, but struck out on four pitches to make the first game official.

 

 

[Ruzious]

6 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I think it was both, salary dump and slot money. IMO

Yes, dumping O'Day's contract and getting slot money.  

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2 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

That's really not what I was referring to.  I agree with you on those points.  My point was we don't use assets just to block the Yankees from going after a player.  

A player that the Orioles would chose to sign. If the Yankees were out of the running. 

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1 minute ago, Ruzious said:

Yes, dumping O'Day's contract and getting slot money.  

Slot money that assure VV that his best money was in the Crab town. 

[Ruzious]

4 minutes ago, weams said:

Slot money that assure VV that his best money was in the Crab town. 

True.  Now if they do follow this up with a trade of a million slot play for a 27 year old high A pitcher, I'm going to vent some more.   

Thanks for letting me vent.  You're a good man.

 

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1 minute ago, Ruzious said:

True.  Now if they do follow this up with a trade of a million slot play for a 27 year old high A pitcher, I'm going to vent some more.   

Me with you.

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Essentially, Victor gets about 3 to 4 million with whomever he signs with. Not five. Not six. Not seven. Not eight. So. As the big dog in this fight, the Orioles bark a few times to let folks know what is. 

[Tony-OH]

2 hours ago, MurphDogg said:

They gave away Brach for $250K in pool money and acquired this guy for $750K in pool money. If you think that is a solid, cogent plan, I don't know what to tell you.

Well I'll tell you this much, if it it is some kind of amazing plan, it's the most intricate thing they've done in years because confused at this point.

[NCRaven]

10 minutes ago, Ruzious said:

That's really not what I was referring to.  I agree with you on those points.  My point was we don't use assets just to block the Yankees from going after a player.  

Unless it's a player that we want too.  And Victor 2 is a player that we want.

[Tony-OH]

Here's my take, regardless of whether this hurts their chances of signing VVM (It doesn't), it still doesn't make any sense why they would basically just give 750K of signing space to the Phillies. The only thing I can think of that makes any sense is that they did this for "future considerations" or because they took up some their time for the failed Jones deal and they are "compensating" them for taking up that time with money they cant spend. 

As for why they've been hoarding it before giving it away (I don't buy for a second they think the player is any kind of prospect and the Duquette comment is embarrassing to true baseball observers), it very well have been to let other teams know we are all in on VVM and if they got some money they might as well spend it because we are getting VVM.

None of any of this matters as long as they sign VVM. If they don't, it will be quite embarrassing for them and a huge step back.

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Hot topic. 

[Can_of_corn]

16 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Here's my take, regardless of whether this hurts their chances of signing VVM (It doesn't), it still doesn't make any sense why they would basically just give 750K of signing space to the Phillies. The only thing I can think of that makes any sense is that they did this for "future considerations" or because they took up some their time for the failed Jones deal and they are "compensating" them for taking up that time with money they cant spend. 

As for why they've been hoarding it before giving it away (I don't buy for a second they think the player is any kind of prospect and the Duquette comment is embarrassing to true baseball observers), it very well have been to let other teams know we are all in on VVM and if they got some money they might as well spend it because we are getting VVM.

None of any of this matters as long as they sign VVM. If they don't, it will be quite embarrassing for them and a huge step back.

Something I hadn't considered.

[sportsfan8703]

2nd year in a row that we’ve traded int’l slot money the Philly. Last year in the Kim trade too. I’m fine if it was just to relationship build since we may have had some failed trades with them recently, but we should’ve gotten something better back.  

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9 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

2nd year in a row that we’ve traded int’l slot money the Philly. Last year in the Kim trade too. I’m fine if it was just to relationship build since we may have had some failed trades with them recently, but we should’ve gotten something better back.  

https://www.ydr.com/story/sports/2018/08/28/philadelphia-phillies-acquire-slugger-jose-bautista-new-york-mets-mlb-trade/1123078002/

Did Philadelphia send slot money room to NY?

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Ruzious said:

Gausman's performance is worth more money than he's getting paid - so saying a reason for the trade was saving Gausman's salary makes no sense.  O'Day's salary is why the payment in prospects was so low.  But part of the justification for the trade - as explained by Duquette - was to get the international slot money.  

Every piece of that deal had a value.   It’s not all one thing.

As to Gausman being worth more than he’s getting paid, I ask “to whom?”     If you are 50 games out of first place, Gausman’s performance has no real value.   If you are fighting for a playoff spot, then it does.     I’d say the value of the players, salary relief and slots we received for Gausman were worth more to the Orioles than Gausman would have been worth to them under their circumstances, and less than what Gausman is worth to the Braves in their circumstances.