Orioles Spend 250k of their International Money ( Report that it was $750k)

[Flacco Machado]

 

[Flacco Machado]

 

[Ohfan67]

21 minutes ago, ReclaimTheCrown said:

This is mind boggling and more than a little infuriating. They better have a better plan than this for all that money they acquired...

I think you’re seeing the plan unfold. 

[baltfan]

I just don’t get how we gave up $750k for this guy.  We couldn’t have liked him so much that we pursued him that strong.  I would have thought Phillies came to us. 

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, baltfan said:

I just don’t get how we gave up $750k for this guy.  We couldn’t have liked him so much that we pursued him that strong.  I would have thought Phillies came to us. 

We didn’t give up $750 k.    We gave up the right to spend $750 k.   Big difference.    Even so, the move makes little sense to me.

[GoldGlove21]

15 hours ago, Ohfan67 said:

I think Weams was implying that he was not, but maybe I misunderstood. 

International money is not "real money". It is the allowance to spend money. The Orioles have way more than they could likely spend. This was basically a free pickup money wise. I am fine with it as long as they don't do this more than 2 more times before making a run at bigger international talent.

$750k is a lot if true. If the Orioles start dealing those funds away and do not land VVM then they used the ideal of VVM to dump O'Day (in terms of the fan view).

[Flacco Machado]

Jack F'n Zoellner.

No one, and I mean no one, can justify this move.

Why?...why?.... Seriously, why?

[Ohfan67]

The main reason that the Orioles have too much money is they didn’t spend any real money on the prime prospects. They weren’t even in play to sign the prospects that other teams had lined up. If they don’t sign V2, then DD was just making noise by adding slot money to trades. I pray to the baseball gods that they really ramp up their international infrastructure development. It’s really the investment in scouts, etc, that will mean the most in even the near future. 

[Ohfan67]

2 minutes ago, GoldGlove21 said:

International money is not "real money". It is the allowance to spend money. The Orioles have way more than they could likely spend. This was basically a free pickup money wise. I am fine with it as long as they don't do this more than 2 more times before making a run at bigger international talent.

I think there’s a greater than 50% chance that you will be disappointed. 

[GoldGlove21]

11 minutes ago, Frobby said:

We didn’t give up $750 k.    We gave up the right to spend $750 k.   Big difference.    Even so, the move makes little sense to me.

Too much...if it is the only time you do tha that fine, but I see more stupidity on the horizon. 

 

[eddie83]

1 minute ago, Ohfan67 said:

The main reason that the Orioles have too much money is they didn’t spend any real money on the prime prospects. They weren’t even in play to sign the prospects that other teams had lined up. If they don’t sign V2, then DD was just making noise by adding slot money to trades. I pray to the baseball gods that they really ramp up their international infrastructure development. It’s really the investment in scouts, etc, that will mean the most in even the near future. 

I don’t get why you say this. They obviously added slots to make a run at Mesa. 

I’m sure the Braves would have been fine dealing someone like Zoellner instead of the slots if that is what the Orioles preferred   

 

 

 

 

 

[GoldGlove21]

Just now, Ohfan67 said:

I think there’s a greater than 50% chance that you will be disappointed. 

Sounds that way to be honest. If a player is willing to be sold by a team for international funds, what does that say about the player you are acquiring? It isn't even actual money. 

[Ohfan67]

Just now, eddie83 said:

I don’t get why you say this. They obviously added slots to make a run at Mesa. 

I’m sure the Braves would have been fine dealing someone like Zoellner instead of the slots if that is what the Orioles preferred   

 

 

 

 

 

1. The Orioles announce a decision to get real about the international market mid-summer. That’s a year too late at least to be a serious player in the non-V2 talent: The talent coming from everywhere not named Cuba. They don’t have a fraction of the resources invested in scouting, building relationships, etc, of the top teams. They can only spend a pittance on that talent. 

 

2. If they don’t sign V2, then I will believe  slot money  was added to trades  just to make trades look better. Hopefully they know how much V2 is going to cost them and now they are just spending the slot cash that has become Monopoly money. 

 

3. I am skeptical of the Orioles decision making, their explanations for moves, etc.  The Orioles have done many things to make me skeptical and very little to inspire confidence. 

[Moose Milligan]

This does not please me.

I'll wait to see if we get VVM or someone else big with the international money but this looks to be really dumb.

[eddie83]

10 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

1. The Orioles announce a decision to get real about the international market mid-summer. That’s a year too late at least to be a serious player in the non-V2 talent: The talent coming from everywhere not named Cuba. They don’t have a fraction of the resources invested in scouting, building relationships, etc, of the top teams. They can only spend a pittance on that talent. 

 

2. If they don’t sign V2, then I will believe  slot money  was added to trades  just to make trades look better. Hopefully they know how much V2 is going to cost them and now they are just spending the slot cash that has become Monopoly money. 

 

3. I am skeptical of the Orioles decision making, their explanations for moves, etc.  The Orioles have done many things to make me skeptical and very little to inspire confidence. 

So they added slot money to make trades look better? The slots have a value of zero if they aren’t spent or traded for a player. 

I’m waiting for someone to insinuate that this trade has cost them VVM.