Gavin Cecchini released by mets

[bpilktree]

This has to be a guy we look at for more infield depth.  He is still very young and a former 1st round pick that can play both second and short.  I know we already have Jackson and Martin but i would add him over the guy we picked up from th Yankees earlier this off season.  He hasn't quite hit in majors but the minor league numbers are very solid.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cecchga02.shtml?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-

[Cumberbundy]

In 2017 he was their preseason #7 prospect according to mlb pipeline.

minorleagueball feb 2017

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/1/12/14229332/new-york-mets-top-20-prospects-for-2017

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Gavin Cecchini, SS, Grade B-/B: Age 23, first round pick in 2012; hit .325/.390/.448 with 48 walks, 55 strikeouts in 446 at-bats in Triple-A; went 2-for-6 with two doubles in the majors; when drafted he had a reputation for strong defense and questionable hitting; that’s flipped now; he can hit for average and makes constant contact but is a mediocre shortstop, with so-so range and arm strength and too many miscues; tools should work better at second base and could pair nicely with Rosario down the line; like Nimmo, would not surprise me to see a power surge in his late 20s. ETA 2017.

FantraxHQ October 2018:

https://www.fantraxhq.com/2019-top-25-new-york-mets-prospects/

 

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12. Gavin Cecchini, 2B/SS, Bats: R, DOB: 12/22/93, ETA 2019

2018 Stats (A+/AAA): .301/.347/.469/.816, 11 2B, 2 HR, 1 SB,

We’ve been talking a lot of upside and ceilings in these rankings so far. How about we switch it up with one of those high floor prospects. There’s not a lot of exciting tools here, but Cecchini puts the ball in play and has displayed an advanced plate approach and contact skills with a clean swing. The ceiling isn’t overly high here, but Cecchini should at least develop into a solid utility infielder. Think Brock Holt with a tad more pop.

 

 

 

Last update from mlb:

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018/?list=nym

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Scouting grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 35 | Run: 50 | Arm: 50| Field: 50 | Overall: 45

Cecchini's father, Glenn, is a long-time high school coach who also served as USA Baseball's 18 and Under National Team's manager, and his brother Garin, is a long-time pro who has big-league time. Gavin has reached the highest level in 2016 and 2017, but whether the 2012 first-round pick is a regular or a utilityman remains to be seen.

Cecchini has above-average bat-to-ball skills, constantly barreling up the baseball and maintaining low strikeout rates throughout his career. While he has added some strength since signing and has more extra-base ability than fellow Mets infield prospect Luis Guillorme, a lack of pop limits his offensive upside. Defensively, Cecchini has been a bit enigmatic. He'll show an above-average to plus arm at times, more than enough to play shortstop, but he's had enough trouble making accurate throws that he is now primarily a second baseman, where he is solid defensively. Growing up around the game, he is a baseball rat who works tirelessly at improving his all-around game.

Cecchini will likely move around and play multiple positions as he tries to establish himself as a big leaguer, but the Mets still think he has enough hit tool, and just enough extra-base ability, to be an everyday second baseman if given the opportunity.

 

 

[Enjoy Terror]

Similarly the M's gave up on Max Povse, even though Sickels had him as their 6th best prospect last year, BA had him at 7.

[wildbillhiccup]

Could it be more a testament to how thin the Met's farm system is / was? Because these numbers aren't exactly speaking to me. 

 

Year	Age	AgeDif	Tm	Lg	Lev	Aff	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB
2012	18		2 Teams	2 Lgs	Rk-A-	NYM	58	218	196	23	47	9	2	1	22	5	4	18	44	.240	.307	.321	.629	63	4	2	0	2	0
2012	18	-3.1	Brooklyn	NYPL	A-	NYM	5	6	5	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.167	.000	.167	0	0	1	0	0	0
2012	18	-2.2	Kingsport	APPY	Rk	NYM	53	212	191	21	47	9	2	1	22	5	4	18	43	.246	.311	.330	.641	63	4	1	0	2	0
2013	19	-2.0	Brooklyn	NYPL	A-	NYM	51	212	194	18	53	8	0	0	14	2	3	14	30	.273	.319	.314	.633	61	1	0	2	2	0
2014	20		3 Teams	3 Lgs	A+-A-AA	NYM	126	534	465	79	115	27	5	8	56	10	4	57	82	.247	.328	.378	.707	176	9	3	1	8	1
2014	20	-4.7	Binghamton	EL	AA	NYM	1	4	4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.250	.250	.250	.500	1	0	0	0	0	0
2014	20	-2.7	St. Lucie	FLOR	A+	NYM	68	271	233	36	55	10	1	5	31	3	3	32	40	.236	.325	.352	.677	82	7	1	0	5	0
2014	20	-1.5	Savannah	SALL	A	NYM	57	259	228	42	59	17	4	3	25	7	1	25	41	.259	.333	.408	.741	93	2	2	1	3	1
2015	21	-3.5	Binghamton	EL	AA	NYM	109	485	439	64	139	26	4	7	51	3	4	42	55	.317	.377	.442	.819	194	8	2	0	2	0
2015	21	-1.2	Salt River	AZFL	Fal		4	17	13	5	5	1	0	0	0	1	1	4	1	.385	.529	.462	.991	6	0	0	0	0	0
2016	22	-6.2	NYM	NL	MLB	NYM	4	7	6	2	2	2	0	0	2	0	0	0	2	.333	.429	.667	1.095	4	0	1	0	0	0
2016	22	-4.5	Las Vegas	PCL	AAA	NYM	117	499	446	71	145	27	2	8	55	4	1	48	55	.325	.390	.448	.838	200	16	0	4	1	0
2016	22	-0.3	Scottsdale	AZFL	Fal		16	70	61	12	18	5	1	1	7	0	1	7	8	.295	.357	.459	.816	28	2	0	0	2	0
2017	23	-5.0	NYM	NL	MLB	NYM	32	82	77	4	16	2	0	1	7	0	1	4	19	.208	.256	.273	.529	21	3	1	0	0	1
2017	23	-3.4	Las Vegas	PCL	AAA	NYM	110	497	453	68	121	27	3	6	39	5	4	40	61	.267	.329	.380	.709	172	16	2	2	0	1
2018	24		2 Teams	2 Lgs	AAA-A+	NYM	31	123	113	15	34	11	1	2	9	1	1	7	15	.301	.347	.469	.816	53	0	1	2	0	0
2018	24	-2.5	Las Vegas	PCL	AAA	NYM	30	119	109	14	32	11	1	2	9	1	1	7	15	.294	.342	.468	.810	51	0	1	2	0	0
2018	24	1.6	St. Lucie	FLOR	A+	NYM	1	4	4	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.500	.500	.500	1.000	2	0

[wildcard]

I'd pass.

[jamalshw]

I'd take Cecchini over a couple guys on our current 40-man roster, but I don't see him as a must get option either. My question would be if the front office sees him as someone that can add a bit of pop as he's seemingly a .280/.340/.400 hitter in the minors without much stolen base speed or pop (though he does have some doubles).

[wildbillhiccup]

4 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Could it be more a testament to how thin the Met's farm system is / was? Because these numbers aren't exactly speaking to me. 

 

Year	Age	AgeDif	Tm	Lg	Lev	Aff	G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB
2012	18		2 Teams	2 Lgs	Rk-A-	NYM	58	218	196	23	47	9	2	1	22	5	4	18	44	.240	.307	.321	.629	63	4	2	0	2	0
2012	18	-3.1	Brooklyn	NYPL	A-	NYM	5	6	5	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.167	.000	.167	0	0	1	0	0	0
2012	18	-2.2	Kingsport	APPY	Rk	NYM	53	212	191	21	47	9	2	1	22	5	4	18	43	.246	.311	.330	.641	63	4	1	0	2	0
2013	19	-2.0	Brooklyn	NYPL	A-	NYM	51	212	194	18	53	8	0	0	14	2	3	14	30	.273	.319	.314	.633	61	1	0	2	2	0
2014	20		3 Teams	3 Lgs	A+-A-AA	NYM	126	534	465	79	115	27	5	8	56	10	4	57	82	.247	.328	.378	.707	176	9	3	1	8	1
2014	20	-4.7	Binghamton	EL	AA	NYM	1	4	4	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.250	.250	.250	.500	1	0	0	0	0	0
2014	20	-2.7	St. Lucie	FLOR	A+	NYM	68	271	233	36	55	10	1	5	31	3	3	32	40	.236	.325	.352	.677	82	7	1	0	5	0
2014	20	-1.5	Savannah	SALL	A	NYM	57	259	228	42	59	17	4	3	25	7	1	25	41	.259	.333	.408	.741	93	2	2	1	3	1
2015	21	-3.5	Binghamton	EL	AA	NYM	109	485	439	64	139	26	4	7	51	3	4	42	55	.317	.377	.442	.819	194	8	2	0	2	0
2015	21	-1.2	Salt River	AZFL	Fal		4	17	13	5	5	1	0	0	0	1	1	4	1	.385	.529	.462	.991	6	0	0	0	0	0
2016	22	-6.2	NYM	NL	MLB	NYM	4	7	6	2	2	2	0	0	2	0	0	0	2	.333	.429	.667	1.095	4	0	1	0	0	0
2016	22	-4.5	Las Vegas	PCL	AAA	NYM	117	499	446	71	145	27	2	8	55	4	1	48	55	.325	.390	.448	.838	200	16	0	4	1	0
2016	22	-0.3	Scottsdale	AZFL	Fal		16	70	61	12	18	5	1	1	7	0	1	7	8	.295	.357	.459	.816	28	2	0	0	2	0
2017	23	-5.0	NYM	NL	MLB	NYM	32	82	77	4	16	2	0	1	7	0	1	4	19	.208	.256	.273	.529	21	3	1	0	0	1
2017	23	-3.4	Las Vegas	PCL	AAA	NYM	110	497	453	68	121	27	3	6	39	5	4	40	61	.267	.329	.380	.709	172	16	2	2	0	1
2018	24		2 Teams	2 Lgs	AAA-A+	NYM	31	123	113	15	34	11	1	2	9	1	1	7	15	.301	.347	.469	.816	53	0	1	2	0	0
2018	24	-2.5	Las Vegas	PCL	AAA	NYM	30	119	109	14	32	11	1	2	9	1	1	7	15	.294	.342	.468	.810	51	0	1	2	0	0
2018	24	1.6	St. Lucie	FLOR	A+	NYM	1	4	4	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.500	.500	.500	1.000	2	0

I mean he has more middle names than home runs last season...

 Gavin Glenn Christopher Joseph Cecchini

[DrungoHazewood]

Keep in mind that the Las Vegas team had an OPS of .802 and an ERA of 5.83.  So put his 1115 PAs in AAA with a .777 OPS in context.  That's a lot like OPSing .690 in Norfolk.

[foxfield]

11 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Could it be more a testament to how thin the Met's farm system is / was? Because these numbers aren't exactly speaking to me. 

Oh, I think they are speaking...

[Philip]

The Mets tossed Cecchini not because he was bad but because they are full to overflowing with worthy players.

should we claim him or not?

[DrungoHazewood]

There's another thread floating around here from yesterday.  I believe the consensus was "maybe" but him OPSing .777 in the PCL is about equal to a .680 in Norfolk.  Do we value an infielder who might give us a .650 in Baltimore?

[wildcard]

no

[Philip]

8 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

There's another thread floating around here from yesterday.  I believe the consensus was "maybe" but him OPSing .777 in the PCL is about equal to a .680 in Norfolk.  Do we value an infielder who might give us a .650 in Baltimore?

The article and several comments at MLBTR said his problem was injury and not ability. If he’s just “bad” then of course not, but if the injuries really derailed his production, he’s probably(probably!)an upgrade.

[interloper]

At this point wouldn't put it past Elias as he is currently gobbling up any and all infielders. However it's getting more difficult to find room, especially when it might be time to start thinking about adding a catcher, outfielder, and starting pitcher.

[sportsfan8703]

Jon Andreoli?  Haha. Now that Elias is starting to make moves me probably need a general thread about all these DFAd players. 

I’d like to see an OF get claimed that can play all three OF positions if need be.