Chris Davis 2019 and beyond

[turtlebowl]

RELEASE THIS GUY NOW!!  I really don't care that he may be having slightly better AB's.  I don't care that he is still owned millions so they don't want to eat the money.  Two games in a row now I have seen foul balls hit to the first base side and he is standing at first base with zero effort to even pretend like he is interested in trying to catch the ball.

He is not a leader and not the type of guy you want to be around the young guys.  He got his money and honestly it appears like he has just mailed it in. At different points he has been called out for his work ethic/focus by coaches and now he is bringing that into the field. I will always root for the team regardless how bad they are but I will not spend my money anymore to go watch a team that he plays on. 

[Spy Fox]

3 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

AB/SO, all time, qualified for batting title.  Includes only years where batter strikeouts available, although that doesn't matter because the years they weren't were a long time ago when nobody struck out nearly as much as they do today.

                                                                                                                                              
Rk               Player  AB/SO  SO Year Age  Tm Lg   G  PA  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB IBB HBP SH SF GDP SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG   OPS       Pos
1            Joey Gallo 2.2908 196 2017  23 TEX AL 145 532 449  85  94 18  3 41  80  75   1   8  0  0   3  7  2 .209 .333 .537  .869    537/HD
2           Chris Davis 2.3385 195 2017  31 BAL AL 128 524 456  65  98 15  1 26  61  61   4   3  0  4   7  1  1 .215 .309 .423  .732     *3/D5
3         Mark Reynolds 2.3649 211 2010  26 ARI NL 145 596 499  79  99 17  2 32  85  83   7   9  0  5   8  7  4 .198 .320 .433  .753     *5/3H
4          Chris Carter 2.3868 212 2013  26 HOU AL 148 585 506  64 113 24  2 29  82  70   1   4  0  5   8  2  0 .223 .320 .451  .770    37D/H9
5             Jack Cust 2.4085 164 2007  28 OAK AL 124 507 395  61 101 18  1 26  82 105   2   1  0  6   6  0  2 .256 .408 .504  .912     D97/H
6             Adam Dunn 2.4279 222 2012  32 CHW AL 151 649 539  87 110 19  0 41  96 105   3   1  0  4   8  2  1 .204 .333 .468  .800    *D3/7H
7             Jack Cust 2.4416 197 2008  29 OAK AL 148 598 481  77 111 19  0 33  77 111   3   2  0  4   7  0  0 .231 .375 .476  .851    *7D/H9
8           Chris Davis 2.4438 160 2018  32 BAL AL 107 436 391  35  66 10  0 16  44  35   2   6  0  4   5  2  0 .169 .245 .317  .563     *3/DH
9            Joey Gallo 2.4793 169 2018  24 TEX AL 122 488 419  72  89 20  1 34  78  66   4   3  0  0   3  3  4 .212 .324 .508  .832  *739/H8D
10             Rob Deer 2.5484 186 1987  26 MIL AL 134 566 474  71 113 15  2 28  80  86   6   5  0  1   4 12  4 .238 .360 .456  .816   *793/DH

 

Jack Cust was ahead of his time! 

[TonySoprano]

There are goals, but this one is really sad.

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The milestone is a bit unflattering, but it’s attainable. With two hits Sunday and his batting average at .177, its highest point since May 5, Chris Davis has a path to climbing to .200 before the end of the season.

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It would mean a lot,” Davis said. “My goal really the last couple of months was to stick with my plan and just continue to work and try to build some momentum going into the offseason. Obviously, this has been a tough year for me on all fronts, but I think there’s still work to be done. There’s still time to put some good things to use and hopefully finish on top.”

By Davis’ standards, climbing to the Mendoza Line would require a month outside anything he’s done since his breakout 2013 season — batting .300 for a calendar month. The last time he did that was May 2013, when he hit .364 and had 36 hits — only 10 fewer than he had in the entire first half this year.

He has 75 hits in 424 at-bats in 2018, and using a rough estimate of his healthy average of around 90 at-bats per month, that would give him 507 at-bats for the year — and require 102 hits for an average over .200. With seven September at-bats already knocked out and three hits collected in them, Davis would have to go 27-for-83 for a .325 average the rest of the way to get above .200.

 

 

[TonySoprano]

Here is exactly the last two calendar years for Chris Davis 9/2/16 - 9/2/18

270 G, 983 ABs, 48 HRs, 121 RBI,  .199/.286/.376/.652
I'm reminded of the famous words of "Dirty Harry" Callahan

 

[weams]

On 8/22/2018 at 2:33 PM, Can_of_corn said:

I don't care about seeing Mancini at first but I do want to see someone other than Mancini in left and I want to see Davis on the bench.

So Mancini at first works for me.

 

There is no reason to long for Mancini at first. He doesn't play the position that well. 

[sportsfan8703]

This might be the dumbest thing I’ve said, but we should just bat Davis 3rd behind Mullins and Villar. Tell Mullins and Villar to be super agressive with stolen base attempts. 

If one of them is on first, then have them try and swipe 2nd.  If one of them is on 2nd, then the defense can’t do the extreme shift. This would open up more holes for Davis. He’s a guess hitter, now he can just sit fastball with them on base. 

Davis is going to play everyday anyway next year. Gotta try something. Maybe he can just sit FB. Who else should hit 3rd next year?  Mancini and Trumbo are Double Play machines. Davis doesn’t hit into a lot of GIDPs. He sees a lot of pitches(because he can’t hit them), and he can make productive outs by hitting sac flies. 

I’m trying here. Haha. The dude is going to play anyway. 

[tntoriole]

10 minutes ago, weams said:

There is no reason to long for Mancini at first. He doesn't play the position that well. 

Better than what we have and better than any other option we currently have.    Sometimes you improve the team in small ways rather than waiting for some Eddie Murray to turn up. 

[sportsfan8703]

13 minutes ago, weams said:

There is no reason to long for Mancini at first. He doesn't play the position that well. 

Mancini can’t throw the ball around the infield. I like Mancini. But he’s got Jhonny Damon’s arm and he’s not very (smooth) at 1B. He’s either a LF or DH. Mountcastle is our long term solution at the position, but we do have Davis under contract for 4 more seasons. 

[Aristotelian]

On 8/25/2018 at 2:32 PM, turtlebowl said:

RELEASE THIS GUY NOW!!  

He is not a leader and not the type of guy you want to be around the young guys.  He got his money and honestly it appears like he has just mailed it in. At different points he has been called out for his work ethic/focus by coaches and now he is bringing that into the field. I will always root for the team regardless how bad they are but I will not spend my money anymore to go watch a team that he plays on. 

The stats are ugly but I would not read effort/leadership into the results. I am not a true believer in Buck but I do trust his character judgment and I believe that if Davis had significant character issues we would know about it. It is more likely that he is just a bad player. Maybe, just maybe, he still has a .700 OPS season left in him.

[weams]

9 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

Better than what we have and better than any other option we currently have.    Sometimes you improve the team in small ways rather than waiting for some Eddie Murray to turn up. 

I disagree. I'd rather try other options. Not Tumbo. Not Davis. 

[Sydnor]

11 minutes ago, weams said:

I disagree. I'd rather try other options. Not Tumbo. Not Davis. 

What other options? I don’t see a lot of major league first basemen in the system. In fact, I only see one, but I’d prefer that the organization doesn’t make that move yet. So, are you referring to 4A players like Rosa, Dosch, and Anderlin Rodriguez or do you want to give up on Mountcastle at third and move him across the diamond?

[Moose Milligan]

Top priority this offseason is to try and to figure out how to get out from under this contract.  Probably not possible but they need to do whatever it takes.

[sportsfan8703]

Davis is terrible.  I think we overvalue Mancini and Trumbo. People think we’re going to get something for Trumbo next trade deadline when he’s basically a really expensive Danny Valencia. Davis and Trumbo were both terrible contracts and they both signed right as every MLB team stopped valuing DHs. Hopefully Mancini can be a difference maker. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

30 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

The stats are ugly but I would not read effort/leadership into the results. I am not a true believer in Buck but I do trust his character judgment and I believe that if Davis had significant character issues we would know about it. It is more likely that he is just a bad player. Maybe, just maybe, he still has a .700 OPS season left in him.

I don’t think Davis has character issues. But there is ample evidence he doesn’t focus 100% offensively and defensively.

It’s one thing to be bad, but at least be locked in on every pitch.  

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

This might be the dumbest thing I’ve said, but we should just bat Davis 3rd behind Mullins and Villar. Tell Mullins and Villar to be super agressive with stolen base attempts. 

If one of them is on first, then have them try and swipe 2nd.  If one of them is on 2nd, then the defense can’t do the extreme shift. This would open up more holes for Davis. He’s a guess hitter, now he can just sit fastball with them on base. 

Davis is going to play everyday anyway next year. Gotta try something. Maybe he can just sit FB. Who else should hit 3rd next year?  Mancini and Trumbo are Double Play machines. Davis doesn’t hit into a lot of GIDPs. He sees a lot of pitches(because he can’t hit them), and he can make productive outs by hitting sac flies. 

I’m trying here. Haha. The dude is going to play anyway.