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There are 350 some 19 year old pitchers in affiliated ball. Grayson has thrown the 8th most innings of that group. 

Tony-OH
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He's my report on his start tonight against Lakewood... 7/1 vs Lakewood 1st inning  FB 91-92, 94 (t95)  cb 75. 77, 79 ch 76-79 82 slider 1. R - 3-2 KL, 94 2. L 1-1 7, 93 L- 3-

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As always, this is more important than the box score (although he's still doing well there). Fastball velocity was down last start and was right back up this morning. We got ourselves a good one.

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I was going through notes on Rodriguez and found this interesting. Rodriguez doesn’t have elite upside but has chance at mid rotation type pitcher.  How does a 6”5 kid that throws 95 and four pitches not have elite upside?  If he was 6”2 and thorowing 93 that one thing.  He could add another two mph with building a more solid frame then he has now easily.

 

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21 hours ago, bpilktree said:

I was going through notes on Rodriguez and found this interesting. Rodriguez doesn’t have elite upside but has chance at mid rotation type pitcher.  How does a 6”5 kid that throws 95 and four pitches not have elite upside?  If he was 6”2 and thorowing 93 that one thing.  He could add another two mph with building a more solid frame then he has now easily.

 

Maybe they meant like a John Smoltz/Dave McNally/ Tim Hudson type mid-rotation starter? ?

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On 4/20/2019 at 10:16 PM, bpilktree said:

I was going through notes on Rodriguez and found this interesting. Rodriguez doesn’t have elite upside but has chance at mid rotation type pitcher.  How does a 6”5 kid that throws 95 and four pitches not have elite upside?  If he was 6”2 and thorowing 93 that one thing.  He could add another two mph with building a more solid frame then he has now easily.

 

Where are you reading that?

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I feel like putting tags on recent draft picks of future no. 1, mid rotation, back end starter, etc. is fairly worthless. 

Way too much can happen from point A to point Z and way too many prospects with the TOR stuff never reach their potential or even end up in the bullpen.  

I don't see any reason why Rodriguez couldn't be a future no. 1 if everything broke right, but he's just as likely to settle into a middle or back rotation starter.  Or injuries could derail him completely.  

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10 hours ago, ChuckS said:

I feel like putting tags on recent draft picks of future no. 1, mid rotation, back end starter, etc. is fairly worthless. 

Way too much can happen from point A to point Z and way too many prospects with the TOR stuff never reach their potential or even end up in the bullpen.  

I don't see any reason why Rodriguez couldn't be a future no. 1 if everything broke right, but he's just as likely to settle into a middle or back rotation starter.  Or injuries could derail him completely.  

There is a wide spectrum of outcomes for every prospect, I don’t think that makes evaluating a player and projecting a reasonable set of possible outcomes without value. 

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On 4/20/2019 at 12:11 PM, owknows said:

That change is filthy... 15-17 mph off the fastball and no discernible  difference in arm speed.

From those videos and from watching his first start on video (not the best camera angle), his changeup is his best off speed pitch right now.

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3 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

From those videos and from watching his first start on video (not the best camera angle), his changeup is his best off speed pitch right now.

What's the best camera angle for viewing pitchers? Just curious. I find it really hard to see what type of movement pitches have from these videos from the side of the plate that these scouts take. For me, the camera angles shown for broadcasts when a pitch is thrown are ideal. I wonder if teams have access to cameras from that angle even if the minor league team doesn't broadcast.

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What's the best camera angle for viewing pitchers? Just curious. I find it really hard to see what type of movement pitches have from these videos from the side of the plate that these scouts take. For me, the camera angles shown for broadcasts when a pitch is thrown are ideal. I wonder if teams have access to cameras from that angle even if the minor league team doesn't broadcast.

I think a nice centerfield angle is the easiest to tell. Some site one time showed which MLB parks had the best viewing angle for judging pitches.

Also, sitting behind home plate is decent, though the catcher and umpire block where the ball is received sometimes.

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