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On 7/23/2019 at 10:37 AM, Frobby said:

The O’s have been pretty careful with Rodriguez.    He only pitched three games in June, and three so far in July.     I think people are overreacting to one bad start.    If he struggles a few times in a row, I’ll worry about it. 

Very careful. He hasn't pitched enough innings to even qualify for the league's ERA lead. I'd imagine most high school pitchers have pitched more innings than him by now - at least the really good ones - when you count the high school season and then the summer baseball season.

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There are 350 some 19 year old pitchers in affiliated ball. Grayson has thrown the 8th most innings of that group. 

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He's my report on his start tonight against Lakewood... 7/1 vs Lakewood 1st inning  FB 91-92, 94 (t95)  cb 75. 77, 79 ch 76-79 82 slider 1. R - 3-2 KL, 94 2. L 1-1 7, 93 L- 3-

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As always, this is more important than the box score (although he's still doing well there). Fastball velocity was down last start and was right back up this morning. We got ourselves a good one.

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20 hours ago, orioles22 said:

Very careful. He hasn't pitched enough innings to even qualify for the league's ERA lead. I'd imagine most high school pitchers have pitched more innings than him by now - at least the really good ones - when you count the high school season and then the summer baseball season.

There are 350 some 19 year old pitchers in affiliated ball. Grayson has thrown the 8th most innings of that group. 

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9 hours ago, orioles22 said:

Are most in the short-season leagues that start in June?

We have high school pitchers in my state throwing more than 72 innings and that's just in March through May, not counting what they throw in June-August in summer leagues.

32 full season 19 year old pitchers, Grayson has thrown the 8th most innings of that group.

Just because high school pitchers throw that much, does that mean it's a good thing? Who knows more about pitcher development and health, dads and high school/travel coaches or MLB organizations? I'd need objective data-based proof to believe random high school pitchers are being handled better than a top MLB prospect. 

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2 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Notice how MLB pipeline always has Rodriguez a couple spots below Liberatore on each addition of their lists. They blasted us on draft day for taking Rodriguez over Liberatore. 

Yeah... Grayson has been a very good choice, though I and others were hoping for Liberatore during the draft.  Some of us will always compare Rodriguez to Liberatore because of it, but it is what it is and I'm just happy that GR is progressing and looking like a potential ToR starter..

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3 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Notice how MLB pipeline always has Rodriguez a couple spots below Liberatore on each addition of their lists. They blasted us on draft day for taking Rodriguez over Liberatore. 

Discussion of their relative merits here:

 

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5 hours ago, Luke-OH said:

32 full season 19 year old pitchers, Grayson has thrown the 8th most innings of that group.

Just because high school pitchers throw that much, does that mean it's a good thing? Who knows more about pitcher development and health, dads and high school/travel coaches or MLB organizations? I'd need objective data-based proof to believe random high school pitchers are being handled better than a top MLB prospect. 

No data. It all seems excessive to me, the way pitchers are handled across baseball. I miss the four-man staffs when Palmer had 20-plus complete games every year and won 20 games eight times. Guys like Ryan pitched 20-plus years and were so durable. It seems there are more injuries now, but I don't have any proof or the time to look it up.

Waiting a week between starts for Rodriguez this year has made me think about it more, I guess, since I have spent so much time following the minor leagues with the Orioles struggling.

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1 hour ago, orioles22 said:

No data. It all seems excessive to me, the way pitchers are handled across baseball. I miss the four-man staffs when Palmer had 20-plus complete games every year and won 20 games eight times. Guys like Ryan pitched 20-plus years and were so durable. It seems there are more injuries now, but I don't have any proof or the time to look it up.

Waiting a week between starts for Rodriguez this year has made me think about it more, I guess, since I have spent so much time following the minor leagues with the Orioles struggling.

You might like to read the book “The Arm”.  He started the book with the same questions.

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Rodriquez has walked 15 batters in his last four starts after walking 16 in his first 12 starts.

He was just coming off a dominant performance on July 26 (10Ks, 2BB over 5IP) and most of those walks have come in two starts (11) so it may just be the ups and downs of a young man trying to work his way through his first professional season.

I haven't heard any reports of the stuff or if he's working on something so no real worries at this time. 

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Rodriquez has walked 15 batters in his last four starts after walking 16 in his first 12 starts.

He was just coming off a dominant performance on July 26 (10Ks, 2BB over 5IP) and most of those walks have come in two starts (11) so it may just be the ups and downs of a young man trying to work his way through his first professional season.

I haven't heard any reports of the stuff or if he's working on something so no real worries at this time. 

He reportedly touched 97 in that July 26 start which would be his best peak velocity of the season to my knowledge. He's t96 a number of times. 

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He reportedly touched 97 in that July 26 start which would be his best peak velocity of the season to my knowledge. He's t96 a number of times. 

Nice, I hadn't heard that. Obviously no one likes the walks, but he may have been working on something. Glad to hear that velocity hadn't fallen off at all. 

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15 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Nice, I hadn't heard that. Obviously no one likes the walks, but he may have been working on something. Glad to hear that velocity hadn't fallen off at all. 

I’m not too worried.   The kid has allowed more than 2 runs in 2 of his 16 starts, and those 2 were 6 weeks apart.    But, he bears watching with 75 innings under his belt.   

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McInturff:

“Teenage RHP w/ impressive mix of size, stuff, and remaining projection. Ceiling of power #3 SP w/ numerous miss-bat weapons. Proximity and present mechanical effort add risk.”

Rates his delivery as below average, supporting Keith Law’s opinion to a degree.    More details in the report.

https://2080baseball.com/reports/grayson-rodriguez/

 

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