TT: Ynoa, it's time to say goodbye to Mike Wright

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

8 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Hell, Davis is a better pitcher.  Small sample size, but whatever.

And Sucre.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

2 hours ago, BRobinsonfan said:

It's amazing.  He has a -1.2 WAR over 5 years.  All I can say is he must be one hell of a clubhouse presence to have kept his roster spot for this long.  

Or he had pictures of someone inside the warehouse in a compromising position.

[foxfield]

3 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Or he had pictures of someone inside the warehouse in a compromising position.

That's just not wright...

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Just now, foxfield said:

That's just not wright...

If being happy that Wright is off the team is wrong, I don't want to be Wright.

[Redskins Rick]

5 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Or he had pictures of someone inside the warehouse in a compromising position.

Either Palmer or Bordick said Wright has some of the best stuff in their system, but just needed to put it together and not lose his focus,

[DrungoHazewood]

48 minutes ago, Bubble Buddy said:

Didn't Wright used to hit high 90's every now and then? I feel like I remember in his first couple of starts he was hitting high 90's? 

Answer is yep. He used to sit around 95 MPH. https://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.aspx?playerid=12586&position=P&pitch=FA&statArr=&legend=1&split=base&time=daily&start=2015&end=2019&rtype=mult&gt1=15&dStatArray=FA&ymin=&ymax=

 

 

I always thought he'd be some kinda useful out of the pen. But the results were putrid. 

It's 2019.  My 12-year-old soccer playing kid throws 88.

So I exaggerate, but "occasionally hits 95" is getting darned close to MLB average.

[DrungoHazewood]

Just now, Redskins Rick said:

Either Palmer or Bordick said Wright has some of the best stuff in their system, but just needed to put it together and not lose his focus,

Sounds like the kind of platitudes Bordick would say.  And it is the Orioles' system.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

4 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Either Palmer or Bordick said Wright has some of the best stuff in their system, but just needed to put it together and not lose his focus,

Wright might have at one time. His arm doesn’t seem as electric this year. 

[fansince71]

I’m thrilled we actually got something for him. 

[Bubble Buddy]

36 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

It's 2019.  My 12-year-old soccer playing kid throws 88.

So I exaggerate, but "occasionally hits 95" is getting darned close to MLB average.

His first two seasons his FB average was 94.8 and 94.9 MPH. So he was sitting 95. And that was as a starter most of the time. 

This year it's 93.6. Definitely didn't get the velocity bump out of the pen, which is a bit surprising because a lot of guys do.

Projections  |  Minor Leagues  |  Regular Season

Season	Team	vFA	vFC	vFS	vSI	vCH	vSL	vCU	vCS	vKN	vSB
2015	Orioles	94.8			92.5	81.3	84.0	77.1
2016	Orioles	94.9			93.2	81.8	83.7	79.6
2017	Orioles	94.1			93.1	85.5	86.5
2018	Orioles	94.1			92.6	83.1	89.9	78.6
2019	Orioles	93.6			92.4	88.8	88.8

Edited April 24, 2019 by Bubble Buddy

[Frobby]

5 minutes ago, interloper said:

Surely this means we'll hear of Brady's imminent departure.

But seriously, it's crazy. There's never NOT been a better guy to use in the minor leagues at any time during Wright's tenure here. Especially in the last couple of years. 

He generally did well at Norfolk, so I don’t think it was that obvious that we had someone better all the time.   In the years he divided time here: 

2015: 2.22 ERA

2016: 3.07

2017: 3.69

Its not like Norfolk was loaded with guys who were outperforming Wright down there.  

[tntoriole]

I assume this is what would normally be the Mike Wright Appreciation thread?  I am deeply appreciative that I did not actually have a stroke all the times he pitched for us.   That is all I got. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

 

[DrungoHazewood]

14 hours ago, Frobby said:

He generally did well at Norfolk, so I don’t think it was that obvious that we had someone better all the time.   In the years he divided time here: 

2015: 2.22 ERA

2016: 3.07

2017: 3.69

Its not like Norfolk was loaded with guys who were outperforming Wright down there.  

That's as much a reflection on the quality of pitchers at Norfolk as anything else.  Pick his last year in Norfolk, he allowed 4.44 runs per nine.  The run environment for the Tides was 4.3 runs per nine, with the Tides allowing 4.44 runs/nine.  In '16 he allowed 3.56 runs per nine, in an environment of 3.77.  In '15 he was much better, but in '14 he was much worse (although both of those coincided and matched wild swings in Norfolk/IL run context - in '15 the Tides allowed less than 500 runs all year).  Overall he's allowed 4.13 runs/nine in AAA.

An average AAA pitcher is somewhere below replacement level.  Rule of thumb is If you give up around 3.75-4.00 runs a game in Norfolk you're a replacement-level pitcher in the majors.

[DrungoHazewood]

15 hours ago, Bubble Buddy said:

His first two seasons his FB average was 94.8 and 94.9 MPH. So he was sitting 95. And that was as a starter most of the time. 

This year it's 93.6. Definitely didn't get the velocity bump out of the pen, which is a bit surprising because a lot of guys do.

Projections  |  Minor Leagues  |  Regular Season

Season	Team	vFA	vFC	vFS	vSI	vCH	vSL	vCU	vCS	vKN	vSB
2015	Orioles	94.8			92.5	81.3	84.0	77.1
2016	Orioles	94.9			93.2	81.8	83.7	79.6
2017	Orioles	94.1			93.1	85.5	86.5
2018	Orioles	94.1			92.6	83.1	89.9	78.6
2019	Orioles	93.6			92.4	88.8	88.8

I would expect the velocity gap between relievers and starters to narrow over time, since starters are continuing to pitch max effort and fewer innings.  The biggest difference was probably in the 90s when starters were still kind of expected to half try to get to the 7th or 8th most games and there were already one-inning relievers.