Trade value 2019

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Frobby said:

Yeah, but SSS for all concerned, especially Cobb who has only made two starts, one of which was very solid (5.2 IP, 2 R).    

I thought only WC would call 5.2, 2R very solid.

[LookinUp]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, but SSS for all concerned, especially Cobb who has only made two starts, one of which was very solid (5.2 IP, 2 R).    

Absolutely true. 

We're 1 month into a 5 month window to build trade value. Plenty of time for all of this to change. 

[LookinUp]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I thought only WC would call 5.2, 2R very solid.

It's the O's. We have to grade on a curve. 

[Just Regular]

I think the lesson of Alex Cobb's two Aprils is that if he is out of sync, even below average MLB offenses will light him up like a pinball machine, but he can still be a fine pitcher when he gets going.  Hopefully he can have his August 2018-type run early enough for it to really help us this year.

[Frobby]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I thought only WC would call 5.2, 2R very solid.

I would take that from any of our starters every time.   Do that 32 times and it’s 180 innings at 3.17 ERA.  That’s not just good on the Orioles, that’s something any team in MLB would covet.   

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I would take that from any of our starters every time.   Do that 32 times and it’s 180 innings at 3.17 ERA.  That’s not just good on the Orioles, that’s something any team in MLB would covet.   

I wish MLB hadn’t come to this. It used to be a pitcher who could only go 5.2 would be your fifth starter. 

[Can_of_corn]

11 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I would take that from any of our starters every time.   Do that 32 times and it’s 180 innings at 3.17 ERA.  That’s not just good on the Orioles, that’s something any team in MLB would covet.   

Do that 32 times.

Indeed.

[Frobby]

9 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I wish MLB hadn’t come to this. It used to be a pitcher who could only go 5.2 would be your fifth starter. 

It is what it is.   I count 37 pitchers who made 30 starts and averaged 5.2 IP/start or better last season.   

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It is what it is.   I count 37 pitchers who made 30 starts and averaged 5.2 IP/start or better last season.   

I know, I’m not a fan of 4 or 5 pitchers being used a game considered as normal. 

[HowAboutThat]

 Well, I just read the transcript for the chat at MLB trade rumors, and one of the questions was about whether Edwin Encarnacion of the Mariners has any trade value, and the answer was, “ha ha ha ha no“

That means that Mancini probably doesn’t have much trade value as a first base man, But he might have some as an outfielder. 

[thezeroes]

Trade Value of any player has to do with SUPPLY and DEMAND.   When three or four teams are in need of a particular type player and there is only one or two available, the price is way higher than if three or four players of equal value are being sought by one team the buyer can name the terms.

 

Having said that, where does Mancini fall within the confines of available players with the same skill set and years of control???  Also who is looking for that type of player???

As fans, we seem to set a higher value on your own players.  BIG MISTAKE.

[Frobby]

29 minutes ago, Philip said:

 Well, I just read the transcript for the chat at MLB trade rumors, and one of the questions was about whether Edwin Encarnacion of the Mariners has any trade value, and the answer was, “ha ha ha ha no“

That means that Mancini probably doesn’t have much trade value as a first base man, But he might have some as an outfielder. 

Encarnacion is making $21.7 mm this year and whatever team has him at the end of the year is on the hook for a $5 mm buyout of his $20 mm option for next year.   Mancini is under team control at relatively cheap prices this year and the next three.    That’s a huge factor in their trade value.  

[thezeroes]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Encarnacion is making $21.7 mm this year and whatever team has him at the end of the year is on the hook for a $5 mm buyout of his $20 mm option for next year.   Mancini is under team control at relatively cheap prices this year and the next three.    That’s a huge factor in their trade value.  

One has already hit their ceiling while the other may have plenty of improvement remaining.

[Frobby]

12 minutes ago, thezeroes said:

One has already hit their ceiling while the other may have plenty of improvement remaining.

“May” being the operative wording.   

Hyde, ever on the sunny side, has said a couple of times that he thinks Trey is “just scratching the surface” of what he can do.    Let’s hope so!

[waroriole]

1 hour ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I know, I’m not a fan of 4 or 5 pitchers being used a game considered as normal. 

I think we’re seeing the bullpen go back to multiple innings usage.