Cashner Wants to Stay in Baltimore

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6 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

People who sign incredibly lucrative contracts and get treated like royalty. This is not Adam Jones abiding by his contract. This is a player saying he may break his contract. 

But you should have some sort of free-will.  I doubt he would ever refuse a trade but if he did it is his right to live his life however he wants.  He isn't in the military so he can do as he pleases. 

[Ohfan67]

19 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

If you have already made $36 million is another $5 million really going to affect your life one way or the other?

As of a few years ago, MLB players filed for bankruptcy at a rate 4x the national average. 

[Frobby]

17 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Just like with Adam Jones last season exercising his contractual rights, sometimes fans forget that baseball players are people too and not just cogs in a machine.

True.    Of course, Cashner has no contractual rights.   If he were to refuse to report to a new team it would be viewed in a very different light than when Adam declined a trade.    But the human aspects are the same.  

I think Cashner is a pretty positive force in the clubhouse.    We need to trade him if we can get something of future value, but it will be a shame to lose the guy, especially since he’s pitching well.  

[MurphDogg]

10 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I don't think anyone, anywhere, turns down 5 million no matter how much they already have.  I understand the spirit of your question but at the same time, I highly doubt anyone would go "Nah, I already made 36, I don't need 5 more."

Players do it all the time when they retire.

[LookinUp]

Cashner's trade value just went down.

[MurphDogg]

8 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

As of a few years ago, MLB players filed for bankruptcy at a rate 4x the national average. 

If Cashner is considering walking away from his contract, I would guess that he is not among that cohort.

[Moose Milligan]

2 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Players do it all the time when they retire.

That's when the game is telling them they're done.

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28 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

If you have already made $36 million is another $5 million really going to affect your life one way or the other?

It very possibly could!

[MurphDogg]

1 minute ago, LookinUp said:

Cashner's trade value just went down.

Not really, he either goes or he doesn't. A team will get assurances that he will report before trading for him.

[MurphDogg]

Just now, Moose Milligan said:

That's when the game is telling them they're done.

The game didn't tell Mike Mussina he was done. He walked away from money, and significantly more than $5 million.

[TonySoprano]

11 minutes ago, Frobby said:

True.    Of course, Cashner has no contractual rights.   If he were to refuse to report to a new team it would be viewed in a very different light than when Adam declined a trade.    But the human aspects are the same.  

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Last year, Adam Jones, who had 10-5 rights, chose not to accept a trade to the Philadelphia Phillies, was criticized by some for not leaving and, ultimately, saw a decrease in playing time, which, given the lack of prospects on the roster, seemed punitive.

It’s much too early to speculate what would happen if Cashner made such a call — without having 10-5 rights. For now, it appears situational and hypothetical.

“I’m not going to say that I wouldn’t (go to a contender),” Cashner said. “But I’m just going to say, ‘We’ll see where it goes.’”

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

That's when the game is telling them they're done.

David Ortiz and Mike Mussina both had very good last seasons.  I think once you get up to the $150 million mark it is easy to walk away when you could play longer. 

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4 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

 

 

 

 

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[Moose Milligan]

Just now, atomic said:

David Ortiz and Mike Mussina both had very good last seasons.  I think once you get up to the $150 million mark it is easy to walk away when you could play longer. 

David Ortiz could barely run. 

[LookinUp]

6 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Not really, he either goes or he doesn't. A team will get assurances that he will report before trading for him.

Or he's more comfortable in a low pressure, losing environment. I know a coach or two who would run away from a guy who appears to feel this way.

I agree though, the assurance that he "wants" it will matter, but will he give that assurance to every team who wants him? By definition, this likely hurts his value unless he walks it back big time.