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Hess has been consistently awful. I don't see how keeping them in the rotation is good for either the pitcher or the team. The problem is, who do we bring up. Options on the 40-man look bleak:

Harvey - 5+ ERA at AA and really just needs to stay healthy at this point

Tate - 5+ ERA at AA since being acquired

Yacobonis - Been there, done that. Isn't even starting at Norfolk.

Shepherd - pitching in the bullpen at Norfolk. Good track record but something is wrong with him right now.

Rogers - 9+ ERA at Norfolk. (I can't believe I thought he was indistinguishable from Means going into the season!)

Luis Ortiz - Has struggled ever since being acquired

Looking past the 40-man, Norfolk's rotation has been pretty atrocious. Akin has been OK but we probably don't want to push him.

Maybe Herb or Gilmartin as an "opener"? If we need to make room on the 40 man, does Shepherd go?

 

 

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Akin is scheduled tonight so would be in line with Hess.  I think it is either him or Strally gets another try we have lots off days this month so can piggyback some but they have to split up Ynoa, Hess part.    I would use the day off to try rework the order of rotation this week.  I would try to give Akin another few starts in minors and bring him up after break but they may not have enough time.

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6 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

Akin is scheduled tonight so would be in line with Hess.  I think it is either him or Strally gets another try we have lots off days this month so can piggyback some but they have to split up Ynoa, Hess part.    I would use the day off to try rework the order of rotation this week.  I would try to give Akin another few starts in minors and bring him up after break but they may not have enough time.

I don’t think we will see Akin for awhile. First year at AAA. Maybe in August/September.   

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1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

I don’t think we will see Akin for awhile. First year at AAA. Maybe in August/September.   

I think about 15 starts at AAA is a good amount of starts if a prospect is pitching well.  This is his 11th so that gives him about a month more of starts to get to 15.

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2 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

I think about 15 starts at AAA is a good amount of starts if a prospect is pitching well.  This is his 11th so that gives him about a month more of starts to get to 15.

I think they will be very cautious with him. Elias pretty much said as much other week. 

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4 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

Hess has been consistently awful. I don't see how keeping them in the rotation is good for either the pitcher or the team. The problem is, who do we bring up. Options on the 40-man look bleak:

Harvey - 5+ ERA at AA and really just needs to stay healthy at this point

Tate - 5+ ERA at AA since being acquired

Yacobonis - Been there, done that. Isn't even starting at Norfolk.

Shepherd - pitching in the bullpen at Norfolk. Good track record but something is wrong with him right now.

Rogers - 9+ ERA at Norfolk. (I can't believe I thought he was indistinguishable from Means going into the season!)

Luis Ortiz - Has struggled ever since being acquired

Looking past the 40-man, Norfolk's rotation has been pretty atrocious. Akin has been OK but we probably don't want to push him.

Maybe Herb or Gilmartin as an "opener"? If we need to make room on the 40 man, does Shepherd go?

 

 

This list makes me mad at Dan all over again. Ortiz, Tate, Rogers....grrrr

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Tyler Herb? Desperate times but most recent scouting report I could find says he has a decent sinker which could play with our decent infield defense.  

Anyone we can trade some international slots for? 

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